<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>um, tell us more about this paging in CUE......<span><br><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Paul" <asobihoudai@yahoo.com><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b>Cc: </b>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "Neal Haas" <nhaas@co.fresno.ca.us>, "SouthEastTexasTelecom" <SETXTelecom@att.net>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip@gmail.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, October 7, 2011 11:53:18 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy<br><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><span>Yeah, I remember you asking too....but we can still whine and moan as customers always do.. Heh.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Actually, the latest CUE does paging! I almost forgot about that... so as long as you're willing to purchase a CUE module in the future you might have Cisco Paging w/o CCME.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Maybe I'm getting some product confused, wouldn't be the first time, but I could've sworn that I saw that feature upcoming on some partner slides.</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif;"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><strong>From:</strong></b> Lelio
Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul <asobihoudai@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Neal Haas <nhaas@co.fresno.ca.us>; SouthEastTexasTelecom <SETXTelecom@att.net>; Scott Voll <svoll.voip@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 7, 2011 8:27 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv28613644"><style>#yiv28613644 p {margin:0;}</style><div><div style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana;">I asked the same question. CCME and CUCM are entirely differ<span>ent products. I believe CCME was a different acquisition. When I asked a while ago, I was told the two are for different markets and will not likely ever be feature paired.<br><br><span></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span></span><br></span><br><hr id="yiv28613644zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Paul" <asobihoudai@yahoo.com><br><b>To: </b>"Neal Haas" <nhaas@co.fresno.ca.us>, "SouthEastTexasTelecom" <SETXTelecom@att.net>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, October 7, 2011 11:06:58 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy<br><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif;"><div>Paging over the phones works *great* under CCME!</div><div><br></div><div>...which always bugged me why CCME could do it so well but not CCM. . . *shrug*</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times,serif;"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times,serif;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><b>From:</b></b> "Haas, Neal" <nhaas@co.fresno.ca.us><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SouthEastTexasTelecom <SETXTelecom@att.net>; 'Scott Voll' <svoll.voip@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 7,
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Cisco is great compared to the Nortel System and a Siemens system I used to run. Much easier to manage,
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Now the Nortel junk system, when we replaced the Nortel phones of 25 and 32 years of usage. The Customers were dancing in the streets! All the functionality
they gained! Why would you have one button for answering and another for hang-up? I asked this to the (NOW BANKRUPT) VP of sales for Nortel, his answer was “why would you want that functionality?” Nortel who?</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So Now I have phones that are going to last ONLY 10 to 12 years instead of 25 years, but I have phones that have 100 times the functionality. To be honest I
wish that they would only last 8, I want to refresh every 8 to 10 years.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The only complaint I have against Cisco is the paging over the phones………poor</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>SouthEastTexasTelecom<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Scott Voll'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">And should I WANT my phone system doing any APPS??? HMMM that’s scary…..;)</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As for any PC, etc integration, that’s one thing..having the phones on the NETWORK?? Ahhhhhhhh can we say…..(no I am not going to post that word on a public
forum! </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Wingdings;">J</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">) UP????</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Scott Voll [mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SouthEast Texas Telecom<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nate VanMaren; Mark Pratt; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal">cisco pat answer...... But your not talking about a phone any longer.... your talking about a computer that looks like a phone. How long do you expect to get out of your desktop? Can the old ROLM do xml / apps / etc? </div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal">I'm not saying I agree...... but that's what cisco says.. ;-)</div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM, SouthEast Texas Telecom <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:SETXTELECOM@att.net">SETXTELECOM@att.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Which is POOR….an Avaya, ROLM or Nortel will last 15-20 years…POOR ROI!!!!</span></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nate VanMaren<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Pratt; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A Cisco product manager for the some of the phones said they design the phones to last 10-12 years
of normal use.</span></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Pratt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;">All,</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Anyone got any input into average life expectancy of the 79XX series of phones?
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;">We have had our 7960’s now for about 5 years and starting to see an upturn in the number of units experiencing
failures of different types (and yes they are EOL).</span></div>
<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Any input on newer models?
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I have been googling but did not find any info. I know environment/users have a lot to do with it. Just trying
to get a “average” if possible.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv28613644MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Thanks</span></div>
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