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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am checking the calling number for a length of four and if it is equal to four disconnecting the call. Seems to be working. Can you think of anything else I should do or try? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Riley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Anthony Holloway'<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Post Call Survey transfer problem<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It does not let me put a number in when using it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I thought about scripting around it on the survey side and dropping the call. Would you offer some suggestions on that? All of the agent extensions are four digits but are different ranges. There should never be a 4 digit extension connected to the survey script but I may not always get CLID from the PSTN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> avholloway@gmail.com [mailto:avholloway@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bill Riley<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Post Call Survey transfer problem<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>As for Agents taking their own survey, you can easily script around that I'm sure. A combination of caller ID, plus arrival type should let you know whose taking the survey.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The fact that you can configure a transfer delay screams consultative.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What about that other option down further: Single-step transfer?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have never seen that before. Phones do have a DirTfr softkey, which is suppose to blind transfer a call. Maybe it's similar. Could be worth a shot.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-Anthony<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Bill Riley <<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your help Anthony. What you described below is exactly what is happening. The business units do not want to prompt the customer for the option to take the survey. They would like 100% of the calls to be sent to the survey. This does sound exactly like a consultative transfer but in the desktop admin it actually says blind transfer as the option which is why the results are unexpected. The time window is between 1.5 and 2 seconds. It happens enough that the agents complain about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am ok with the error message, I can deal with that and get acceptance. It’s the fact that the agent will be able to take their own survey and are not going back into the ready state to take calls. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From the Desktop Work Flow Help:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Call Control actions include: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Answer. The Answer action answers an inbound call.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Blind conference. The Blind conference action conferences the active call with a predefined phone number.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000'>Blind transfer. The Blind transfer action transfers the active call directly to a predefined phone number. The call is transferred to that number and the agent is no longer connected to the call.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Blind Transfer call control action includes a configurable delay time, if one is needed. The Transfer Delay field is not enabled for any other call control action.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Call. The Call action calls a predefined phone number.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Drop. The Drop action disconnects an active call.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Single-step conference. The Single-step conference action conferences the active call by specifying the number with which the agent wants to conference the call. The call is conferenced directly with the third party.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Single-step transfer. The Single-step transfer action transfers the active call by specifying the number to which the agent wants to transfer the call. The call is transferred directly to the third party and the agent is disconnected from the call.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Supervised conference. The Supervised conference action conferences the active call by specifying the number with which the agent wants to conference the call. The agent can either add the third party to the call without first speaking to him or her, or speak to the third party before actually completing the conference call. The agent can alternate between parties or complete the conference call.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Supervised transfer. The Supervised transfer action transfers the active call by specifying the number to which the agent wants to transfer the call. The agent can either hang up before the third party answers, or stay on the line and speak to the third party before actually transferring the call. The agent can switch between parties or complete the call transfer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Touch tones. The Touch tones action enters numbers or symbols on the number pad during an active call.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>These actions can be associated with an event, a rule, and a task button. For example, a task button could be configured</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><a href="mailto:avholloway@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>avholloway@gmail.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:avholloway@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>avholloway@gmail.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bill Riley<br><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Post Call Survey transfer problem</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To be fair, it's not CAD that holds the call, so it's more of a CTI/Phone problem, than a CAD one. Also, I don't believe there is such a thing as blind transfer in CAD, rather it's a very quick consultative transfer. I have never actually tried to hangup during a CAD blind transfer process, but I would imagine that is a window of only a second or less. How often is this happening?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The behavoir you are describing sounds like:<o:p></o:p></p></div><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The caller gets put on hold in preparation for the transfer<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The IVR route point is dialed, and then answers<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The caller hangs up<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Now only the Agent's phone is talking to the IVR<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Then when the transfer attempts to complete (the button click has set the process in motion), because the call is lost, the error displays<o:p></o:p></li></ol><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And that actually all sounds like correct behavoir. Or, expected behavoir. You could replicate this with three phones, and you should see the same behavoir, sans the CAD error.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Could you solve this by having the Agent confirm that the caller is actually willing to take the survey before they transfer. Even something as small as: "I am going to transfer you now, ok?" Then when the caller says "ok" back to the Agent, the Agent transfers. Or is a surprise survey the only option?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Lastly, you could stop with the Answer/Drop solution and just have the Agent perform a regular transfer, which would eliminate the CAD error. But I have a feeling you were there once, and are trying to enhance the solution with the blind Answer/Drop transfer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-Anthony <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Bill Riley <<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net" target="_blank">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Running UCCX 8.5 SU1. Just implemented a post call survey by modifying the answer / drop button to blind transfer the PSTN caller to a IVR script. Survey is working fine but now what is happening is when the agent hits the transfer button and the caller does not want to take the survey the PSTN caller is disconnecting during the transfer to the survey. Instead of the call dropping the agent is being connected to the survey system and getting an error from CAD that the workflow could not be completed. I can deal with the workflow error but having the agent connected to the survey system is not going to work. Why would UCCX / CAD not just drop the call instead of connecting the agent?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>cisco-voip mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>