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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is an enhanced license when you purchase CUCM. If you want premium you have to upgrade the licenses. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Lee<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 19, 2011 1:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what do you do for test/lab/beta scenarios?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Isn't there a permanent UCCX 5 seat license that comes on the CUCM install disk to use for test/lab/beta scenarios? Or do I need a flux-capacitor to use it?<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Chris<br><br><br>On 12/15/2011 01:22 PM, Dennis Heim wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As Einstein’s work would tell us, time is relative, especially if the NTP server uccx is talking to isn’t really sync’d to an stratum NTP source.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dennis Heim<br>Senior Engineer (Unified Communications)<br>CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>10610 9<sup>th</sup> Place<br>Bellevue, WA 98004<br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>425.310.5299 Single Number Reach (WA)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>317.569.4255 Single Number Reach (IN)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>317.569.4201 Fax</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <br><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>dennis.heim@cdw.com</span></a></span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'><br></span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/">cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bill Riley<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what do you do for test/lab/beta scenarios?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I would totally live with some sort of 'sabotaged' test environment, but the idea of only running for 30 days simply does not work here and I'm guessing it's not ideal in other places either.<br><br>Give me a full featured system, with minimal ports/users and I'd be happy. Heck, you can even turn the system off every 30 days and require me to restart it or something. I can live with that too.<br><br>Anyone bought the *LAB* SKUs? There isn't a *LAB* SKU for UCCx though. :(<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>"Bill Riley" <<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:34:25 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [cisco-voip] what do you do for test/lab/beta scenarios?<br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In UCCX on the CD there are demo licenses available. You can upload that and it will unlock the product for 30 days. After that UCCX stops functioning. I followed up on the NFR for a customer and the response I got from the BU was that they do not provide NFR and you have to purchase the product if you want it to last over 30 days.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color
-moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] what do you do for test/lab/beta scenarios?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Just wondering what options paths people have chosen for their test/lab/beta scenarios? With Cisco tightening up the licensing on their products our ability to simply install software for testing is becoming less of an option.<br><br>From my last recollection of v7.1 CUCM, you can install on real hardware and get 50 or so DLUs, but you can't install additional subscribers since you don't have node licenses. If you install on VMware, you get additional node licenses and DLUs, but you really can't call for support since v7 is not supported on VM.<br><br>For 7.x Connection, you can install on physical hardware and get 10 VM boxes and 2 ports. Not sure about VMware.<br><br>The biggest question we have right now is how does UCCx v8 PRE behave out of the box without licenses? Do we get at least one or two agents and/or ports that we can configure and test with? How does that differ if we install on VM?<br><br>I also know that there are a few NFR SKUs - are those reserved for partners only or can anyone order these?<br><br>Any information on how you run your test/lab/beta scenarios without spending high $ values on them would be great.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>cisco-voip mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>