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    Isn't there a permanent UCCX 5 seat license that comes on the CUCM
    install disk to use for test/lab/beta scenarios?  Or do I need a
    flux-capacitor to use it?<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Chris<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 12/15/2011 01:22 PM, Dennis Heim wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">As Einstein’s work would tell us, time is 
            relative, especially if the NTP server uccx is talking to
            isn’t really sync’d to an stratum NTP source.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dennis Heim<br>
              Senior Engineer (Unified Communications)<br>
              CDW  Advanced Technology Services<br>
              10610 9<sup>th</sup> Place<br>
              Bellevue, WA 98004<br>
              <br>
            </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
              "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
              73, 125);">425.310.5299 Single Number Reach (WA)</span><span
              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
              "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
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              font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
              color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">317.569.4255 Single Number Reach
              (IN)</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
              "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
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              317.569.4201 Fax</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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              <br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com"><span
                  style="font-size: 10pt;">dennis.heim@cdw.com</span></a></span><u><span
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                href="http://www.cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/">cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                  font-family:
                  "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:00 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Bill Riley<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what do you do for
                test/lab/beta scenarios?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
              "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">I
              would totally live with some sort of 'sabotaged' test
              environment, but the idea of only running for 30 days
              simply does not work here and I'm guessing it's not ideal
              in other places either.<br>
              <br>
              Give me a full featured system, with minimal ports/users
              and I'd be happy. Heck, you can even turn the system off
              every 30 days and require me to restart it or something. I
              can live with that too.<br>
              <br>
              Anyone bought the *LAB* SKUs? There isn't a *LAB* SKU for
              UCCx though. :(<br>
              <br>
              ---<br>
              Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
              Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
              Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
              (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
              Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
              <br>
                                            - LFJ (with apologies to Mr.
              Popeil)<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";
                color: black;">From:
              </span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
              "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">"Bill
              Riley" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>><br>
              <b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>,
              "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
              <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:34:25 AM<br>
              <b>Subject: </b>RE: [cisco-voip] what do you do for
              test/lab/beta scenarios?<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
              font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
              color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In UCCX on the CD there are demo
              licenses available. You can upload that and it will unlock
              the product for 30 days. After that UCCX stops
              functioning. I followed up on the NFR for a customer and
              the response I got from the BU was that they do not
              provide NFR and you have to purchase the product if you
              want it to last over 30 days.</span><span style="color:
              black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
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              font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                    font-family:
                    "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
                    black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:
                  10pt; font-family:
                  "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
                  black;">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a>
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:29 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] what do you do for
                  test/lab/beta scenarios?</span><span style="color:
                  black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                "Verdana","sans-serif"; color:
                black;">Just wondering what options paths people have
                chosen for their test/lab/beta scenarios? With Cisco
                tightening up the licensing on their products our
                ability to simply install software for testing is
                becoming less of an option.<br>
                <br>
                From my last recollection of v7.1 CUCM, you can install
                on real hardware and get 50 or so DLUs, but you can't
                install additional subscribers since you don't have node
                licenses. If you install on VMware, you get additional
                node licenses and DLUs, but you really can't call for
                support since v7 is not supported on VM.<br>
                <br>
                For 7.x Connection, you can install on physical hardware
                and get 10 VM boxes and 2 ports. Not sure about VMware.<br>
                <br>
                The biggest question we have right now is how does UCCx
                v8 PRE behave out of the box without licenses? Do we get
                at least one or two agents and/or ports that we can
                configure and test with? How does that differ if we
                install on VM?<br>
                <br>
                I also know that there are a few NFR SKUs - are those
                reserved for partners only or can anyone order these?<br>
                <br>
                Any information on how you run your test/lab/beta
                scenarios without spending high $ values on them would
                be great.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks!<br>
                <br>
                ---<br>
                Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
                Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
                Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
                (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
                Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget
                it. <br>
                                              - LFJ (with apologies to
                Mr. Popeil)</span><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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