my question is how long is cisco going to mandate the UCS stuff before they start supporting 3rd party hardware on VMWare.... we have a huge VM deployment of HP but I have to tell our server team we have to buy Cisco UCS products...... Doesn't make people very happy :-(<div>
<br></div><div>Scott<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, gr11 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com">grccie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On C class you can use local as well as remote storage, it supports SAN boot installation. I have done a mixed one on C series - VMware installation on internal disks but CUCM is installed on the SAN disks.<div class="HOEnZb">
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font size="1" face="Verdana">C class internal storage, the b class external
storage </font>
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</p><p><font size="1" face="Verdana">C class can support 4 UC apps per server</font>
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></font>
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Matthew Saskin <<a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank">msaskin@gmail.com</a>></font>
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>,
cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>></font>
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<td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date:</font>
</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">18/01/2012 11:00 AM</font>
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</font></td></tr></tbody></table>
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<br><font size="3">Quick question re: UCS, do you have to use remote storage
or can you use local storage?<br>
<br>
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On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saskin <</font><a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>msaskin@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3">>
wrote:<br>
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<br><font size="3">Depends on your discount, whether you purchase bare-metal
from Cisco or direct from HP/IBM, etc. You've also got to factor
in VMware costs plus added operational complexity for UCS. That said,
ongoing operational costs (eg; smartnet) are much lower for UCS than for
bare-metal servers (and on-par with direct manufacturer support for HP/IBM
hardware)<br>
<br>
That said, I'm a huge proponent of deploying on UCS, b or c-series as appropriate.
Of the 20-30 designs I've put together for customers over the past
12-18 months (ranging from <500 phones to 10K+ phones and 1K+ UCCE agents)
that actually became deployed projects, all but 1 are deployed on UCS with
an exception for a customer that has a rigorous hardware qualification
process and won't qualify UCS for use in their data centers. <br>
<br>
-matthew<br>
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<br><font size="3">On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, <</font><a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</u></font></a><font size="3">>
wrote:</font>
<br><font size="3" face="sans-serif">The C Class UCS server is cheaper than
the bare metal box.</font><font size="3"> <br>
<br>
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</td><td width="81%"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi <</font><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>lelio@uoguelph.ca</u></font></a><font size="1" face="sans-serif">></font><font size="3">
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<td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">To:</font><font size="3">
</font>
</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Erick Wellnitz <</font><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="1" face="sans-serif">></font><font size="3">
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">cisco-voip <</font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size="1" face="sans-serif">></font><font size="3">
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</font><font size="3">
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Ah - well, supported and sold are two different things I guess.<br>
<br>
The supported platforms will help if you have the platforms already, but
not if you are looking to buy new. I do recall quite a few of them being
EOL'ed, especially the H series, but you'd have to check the price list
and your account team for availability.<br>
<br>
There is always the SWONLY option (which is much cheaper). As far as I
know, they are MCS equivalents so they are supported.<br>
<br>
Lelio<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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<hr><font size="3" face="Verdana"><b>From: </b>"Erick Wellnitz"
<</font><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><b><br>
To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <</font><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>lelio@uoguelph.ca</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><b><br>
Cc: </b>"cisco-voip" <</font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><b><br>
Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08:01 PM<b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
<br>
I'm getting conflicting information from someone at Cisco is all.<br>
They told me they aren't selling MCS servers any longer.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</font><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>lelio@uoguelph.ca</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">>
wrote:<br>
> did it not provide the answers you were looking for? is it not up
to date?<br>
><br>
> ---<br>
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G
2W1<br>
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</font><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><br>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <</font><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>lelio@uoguelph.ca</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><br>
> Cc: "cisco-voip" <</font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:32 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
><br>
> I've spent more time looking at that document than I care to think
about.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</font><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>lelio@uoguelph.ca</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">>
wrote:<br>
>> Pretty sure they are. Here are some ref docs<br>
>><br>
>> </font><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana"><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ---<br>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<br>
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</font><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><br>
>> To: "cisco-voip" <</font><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Verdana"><u>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</u></font></a><font size="3" face="Verdana">><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:30:38 PM<br>
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
>><br>
>> Quick question as I think I've gone and confused myself.<br>
>><br>
>> Are tehre still options wit hCM 8.6 for non-virtualized environments?<br>
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