<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Verdana;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
tt
{mso-style-priority:99;
font-family:"Courier New";}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle22
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle23
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:2046517425;
mso-list-template-ids:2054981424;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:1.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
@list l0:level3
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:1.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level4
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:2.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level5
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:2.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level6
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:3.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level7
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:3.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level8
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:4.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level9
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:4.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Under introduction:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN">The following are identical regardless of the support model chosen:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN">Virtual machine (OVA) requirements <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN">VMware product, version and feature support <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN">VMware configuration requirements for UC <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<b><i><span lang="EN">Application/VM Co-residency policy</span></i></b><span lang="EN"> (specifically regarding application mix, 3rd-party support, reservations, oversubscription). Max VM count per server with specs-based depends on the physical server configuration
and the OVAs deployed. E.g. UCS C210 M2 TRC#1 deployed with multiple CUCM 7.5K user OVAs can support 4:1. If specs-based was used with a supported dual 6-core CPU and appropriate increases in memory and storage, the same server model running multiple CUCM
7.5K user OVAs could support 6:1. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Basically referring you back to the policy as defined on the UC on UCS pages<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Matthew G. Loraditch - CCVP, CCNA, CCDA<br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
1965 Greenspring Drive</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Timonium, MD 21093</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
voice. 410.252.8830<br>
fax. 410.252.9284 <br>
<br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/heliontech">Twitter</a> | <a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Helion/252157915296">
Facebook</a> | <a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com/">Website</a> | <a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com?subject=Technical%20Support%20Request">
Email Support</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ruben Montes (Europe)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net; cisco-voip; Matthew Loraditch; Scott Voll; gr11<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">where does it say they do not support co-residency with other applications?<br>
<br>
not that I don't believe you, I just can't see this in the doc and need to refer to it.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">
<hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr">
</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">"Ruben Montes (Europe)" <<a href="mailto:ruben.montes@dimensiondata.com">ruben.montes@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Matthew Loraditch" <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>, "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>, "gr11" <<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com">grccie@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>, "cisco-voip" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:58:25 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes, but they do not support co-residency with other applications, which leads the customer to having to buy at least two additional IBM/HP servers…
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with Scott, I’d like to see soon “true” 3<sup>rd</sup> party hardware on VMWare support.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">… ah, and also a decent consolidation ratio would be nice, not just 1:1…</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 15:54<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Voll; gr11<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They support 3<sup>rd</sup> Party VMWare as of a few months ago:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Specification-Based_Hardware_Support" target="_blank">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Specification-Based_Hardware_Support</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Matthew G. Loraditch - CCVP, CCNA, CCDA<br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
1965 Greenspring Drive</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Timonium, MD 21093</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
voice. 410.252.8830<br>
fax. 410.252.9284 <br>
<br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/heliontech" target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a href="http://www.facebook.com/#%21/pages/Helion/252157915296" target="_blank">
Facebook</a> | <a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com/" target="_blank">Website</a> |
<a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com?subject=Technical%20Support%20Request" target="_blank">
Email Support</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gr11<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">my question is how long is cisco going to mandate the UCS stuff before they start supporting 3rd party hardware on VMWare.... we have a huge VM deployment of HP but I have to tell our server team we have to buy
Cisco UCS products...... Doesn't make people very happy :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, gr11 <<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com" target="_blank">grccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On C class you can use local as well as remote storage, it supports SAN boot installation. I have done a mixed one on C series - VMware installation on internal disks but CUCM is installed on the SAN disks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">C class internal storage, the b class external storage
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">C class can support 4 UC apps per server</span><span style="color:black">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">From:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">To:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Matthew Saskin <<a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank">msaskin@gmail.com</a>></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Cc:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>"
<<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>, cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Date:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">18/01/2012 11:00 AM</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Subject:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="color:black">
<hr size="2" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#A0A0A0" align="center">
</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><br>
<br>
<br>
Quick question re: UCS, do you have to use remote storage or can you use local storage?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone <br>
<br>
On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saskin <<a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank">msaskin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Depends on your discount, whether you purchase bare-metal from Cisco or direct from HP/IBM, etc. You've also got to factor in VMware costs plus added operational complexity for UCS. That said, ongoing operational costs (eg; smartnet) are much lower for UCS
than for bare-metal servers (and on-par with direct manufacturer support for HP/IBM hardware)<br>
<br>
That said, I'm a huge proponent of deploying on UCS, b or c-series as appropriate. Of the 20-30 designs I've put together for customers over the past 12-18 months (ranging from <500 phones to 10K+ phones and 1K+ UCCE agents) that actually became deployed projects,
all but 1 are deployed on UCS with an exception for a customer that has a rigorous hardware qualification process and won't qualify UCS for use in their data centers. <br>
<br>
-matthew<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>> wrote:
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">The C Class UCS server is cheaper than the bare metal box.</span><span style="color:black">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="18%" valign="top" style="width:18.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">From:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td width="81%" valign="top" style="width:81.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">To:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Erick Wellnitz <</span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Cc:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">cisco-voip <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Date:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">18/01/2012 07:16 AM</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Subject:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Sent by:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="color:black">
<hr size="2" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#A0A0A0" align="center">
</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
Ah - well, supported and sold are two different things I guess.<br>
<br>
The supported platforms will help if you have the platforms already, but not if you are looking to buy new. I do recall quite a few of them being EOL'ed, especially the H series, but you'd have to check the price list and your account team for availability.<br>
<br>
There is always the SWONLY option (which is much cheaper). As far as I know, they are MCS equivalents so they are supported.<br>
<br>
Lelio<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="color:black">
<hr size="2" width="100%" align="center">
</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">"Erick Wellnitz" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><b><br>
To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><b><br>
Cc: </b>"cisco-voip" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><b><br>
Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08:01 PM<b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
<br>
I'm getting conflicting information from someone at Cisco is all.<br>
They told me they aren't selling MCS servers any longer.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">>
wrote:<br>
> did it not provide the answers you were looking for? is it not up to date?<br>
><br>
> ---<br>
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
> Cc: "cisco-voip" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:32 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
><br>
> I've spent more time looking at that document than I care to think about.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">>
wrote:<br>
>> Pretty sure they are. Here are some ref docs<br>
>><br>
>> </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ---<br>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
>> To: "cisco-voip" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:30:38 PM<br>
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
>><br>
>> Quick question as I think I've gone and confused myself.<br>
>><br>
>> Are tehre still options wit hCM 8.6 for non-virtualized environments?<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
>> </span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
>> </span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
>><br>
></span><span style="color:black"> <br>
<br>
_____________________ <br>
This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs.</span><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">_______________________________________________</span></tt><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><br>
</span><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">cisco-voip mailing list</span></tt><u><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:blue"><br>
</span></u><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></tt></a></span><u><span style="color:blue"><br>
</span></u><span style="color:black"><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank"><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</span></tt></a><br>
<br>
<br>
_____________________ <br>
This email and all attachments are confidential. For further important information about emails sent to or from GHD or if you have received this email in error, please refer to
<a href="http://www.ghd.com/emaildisclaimer.html" target="_blank">http://www.ghd.com/emaildisclaimer.html</a> .<br>
_____________________ <br>
This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs.<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
cisco-voip mailing list</span><u><span style="color:blue"><br>
</span></u><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span><u><span style="color:blue"><br>
</span></u><span style="color:black"><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
_____________________ <br>
This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs. <br>
<br clear="all">
_____________________ <br>
This email and all attachments are confidential. For further important information about emails sent to or from GHD or if you have received this email in error, please refer to
<a href="http://www.ghd.com/emaildisclaimer.html" target="_blank">http://www.ghd.com/emaildisclaimer.html</a> .<br>
_____________________ <br>
This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
cisco-voip mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
cisco-voip mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br>
<br>
</span><span style="color:white">itevomcid</span><span style="color:black"> <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
cisco-voip mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>