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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">… ah, and also a decent consolidation ratio would be nice, not just 1:1…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 15:54<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Voll; gr11<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They support 3<sup>rd</sup> Party VMWare as of a few months ago:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gr11<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">my question is how long is cisco going to mandate the UCS stuff before they start supporting 3rd party hardware on VMWare.... we have a huge VM deployment of HP but I have to tell our server team we have to buy Cisco UCS products......
Doesn't make people very happy :-(<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, gr11 <<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com">grccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On C class you can use local as well as remote storage, it supports SAN boot installation. I have done a mixed one on C series - VMware installation on internal disks but CUCM is installed on the SAN disks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>, cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>></span>
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Quick question re: UCS, do you have to use remote storage or can you use local storage?<br>
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On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saskin <<a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank">msaskin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Depends on your discount, whether you purchase bare-metal from Cisco or direct from HP/IBM, etc. You've also got to factor in VMware costs plus added operational complexity for UCS. That said, ongoing operational costs (eg; smartnet) are much lower for UCS
than for bare-metal servers (and on-par with direct manufacturer support for HP/IBM hardware)<br>
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That said, I'm a huge proponent of deploying on UCS, b or c-series as appropriate. Of the 20-30 designs I've put together for customers over the past 12-18 months (ranging from <500 phones to 10K+ phones and 1K+ UCCE agents) that actually became deployed projects,
all but 1 are deployed on UCS with an exception for a customer that has a rigorous hardware qualification process and won't qualify UCS for use in their data centers. <br>
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>> wrote:
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<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The C Class UCS server is cheaper than the bare metal box.</span>
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Ah - well, supported and sold are two different things I guess.<br>
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The supported platforms will help if you have the platforms already, but not if you are looking to buy new. I do recall quite a few of them being EOL'ed, especially the H series, but you'd have to check the price list and your account team for availability.<br>
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There is always the SWONLY option (which is much cheaper). As far as I know, they are MCS equivalents so they are supported.<br>
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Lelio<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
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</b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"Erick Wellnitz" <</span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><b><br>
To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><b><br>
Cc: </b>"cisco-voip" <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><b><br>
Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08:01 PM<b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
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I'm getting conflicting information from someone at Cisco is all.<br>
They told me they aren't selling MCS servers any longer.<br>
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On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">> wrote:<br>
> did it not provide the answers you were looking for? is it not up to date?<br>
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> ---<br>
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
> Cc: "cisco-voip" <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:32 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
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> I've spent more time looking at that document than I care to think about.<br>
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> On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">> wrote:<br>
>> Pretty sure they are. Here are some ref docs<br>
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>> </span><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br>
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>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
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>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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>> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
>> To: "cisco-voip" <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:30:38 PM<br>
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
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>> Quick question as I think I've gone and confused myself.<br>
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>> Are tehre still options wit hCM 8.6 for non-virtualized environments?<br>
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