I think they're up to 20:1 or 40:1 with the C460 now.<br><br>Also on the HP/IBM remember it's only for certain Intel procs. One restriction is the ones that are 2.53 GHz+, and there's no oversubscription of CPU or memory, and the IOPS need to be available. Still no roadmap for Dell. If you go the specs-based route you're responsible for guaranteeing the appropriate bandwidth and resources to the blade. If it comes in question, it's up to you to prove the bandwidth/resources are correct. It's this portion of the specs-based support that has made me hesitant to advise this direction. <br>
<br>-nick<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Matthew Saskin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com">msaskin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Spot-on. You can mix and match most of the Cisco UC apps on the same blade without issues. Things get a bit trickier with UCCE co-residency, but you're good for the "standard" UC apps (CUCM, UCXN, CUPS, UCCX, etc.)<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana">cool. that explains it well.<br><br>from this, if we have a supported blade based VM infrastructure, then we just have to keep UC on separate blades than other third party app VMs.<br>
<br>does that sound right?<div><br><span><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br>
</span><br><hr><b>From: </b>"Ruben Montes (Europe)" <<a href="mailto:ruben.montes@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">ruben.montes@dimensiondata.com</a>><br></div><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>, "cisco-voip" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>>, "Matthew Loraditch" <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>, "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>, "gr11" <<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com" target="_blank">grccie@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:09:57 AM<div><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br><br>
</div><div><div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">From this link:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Unified_Communications_Virtualization_Sizing_Guidelines" target="_blank">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Unified_Communications_Virtualization_Sizing_Guidelines</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">To determine which applications may share a physical server, use the following guidelines:</span></p>
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<span lang="EN">Application mix on same physical server / vSphere ESXi host limited to
<b><u>"UC with UC only".</u></b> </span>
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<span lang="EN">Same rules for UC on UCS TRC, or UC on UCS specs-based, or HP/IBM specs-based.
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<b><u><span lang="EN">Co-residency of UC with 3rd-party application VMs</span></u></b><span lang="EN"> (such as TFTP/SFTP/DNS/DHCP servers, Directories, Groupware, File/print, CRM, VMware vCenter, etc.)
<b><u>is not supported at this time</u></b>. These applications may be placed on a separate physical server from UC. For UCS B-series, this can be an adjacent blade in the same chassis.
</span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1f497d">
<span style="color:windowtext" lang="EN">Co-residency of UC with non-UC Cisco VMs (such as Cisco Nexus 1000V VSM) is not supported at this time. These VMs may be placed on a separate physical server from UC. For UCS B-series, this can be an adjacent blade
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ruben</span></p>
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 16:29<br>
<b>To:</b> Ruben Montes (Europe)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>; cisco-voip; Matthew Loraditch; Scott Voll; gr11<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">where does it say they do not support co-residency with other applications?<br>
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not that I don't believe you, I just can't see this in the doc and need to refer to it.<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"Ruben Montes (Europe)" <<a href="mailto:ruben.montes@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">ruben.montes@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Matthew Loraditch" <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>, "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>, "gr11" <<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com" target="_blank">grccie@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>, "cisco-voip" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:58:25 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes, but they do not support co-residency with other applications, which leads the customer to having to buy at least two additional IBM/HP servers…
</span><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree with Scott, I’d like to see soon “true” 3<sup>rd</sup> party hardware on VMWare support.</span><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">… ah, and also a decent consolidation ratio would be nice, not just 1:1…</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 15:54<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Voll; gr11<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">They support 3<sup>rd</sup> Party VMWare as of a few months ago:</span><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Specification-Based_Hardware_Support" target="_blank">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Specification-Based_Hardware_Support</a></span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Matthew G. Loraditch - CCVP, CCNA, CCDA<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gr11<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>my question is how long is cisco going to mandate the UCS stuff before they start supporting 3rd party hardware on VMWare.... we have a huge VM deployment of HP but I have to tell our server team we have to buy
Cisco UCS products...... Doesn't make people very happy :-(</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>Scott</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, gr11 <<a href="mailto:grccie@gmail.com" target="_blank">grccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>On C class you can use local as well as remote storage, it supports SAN boot installation. I have done a mixed one on C series - VMware installation on internal disks but CUCM is installed on the SAN disks.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">C class internal storage, the b class external storage
</span><span></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">C class can support 4 UC apps per server</span><span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>"
<<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>, cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>></span>
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Quick question re: UCS, do you have to use remote storage or can you use local storage?<br>
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Sent from my iPhone <br>
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On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saskin <<a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank">msaskin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Depends on your discount, whether you purchase bare-metal from Cisco or direct from HP/IBM, etc. You've also got to factor in VMware costs plus added operational complexity for UCS. That said, ongoing operational costs (eg; smartnet) are much lower for UCS
than for bare-metal servers (and on-par with direct manufacturer support for HP/IBM hardware)<br>
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That said, I'm a huge proponent of deploying on UCS, b or c-series as appropriate. Of the 20-30 designs I've put together for customers over the past 12-18 months (ranging from <500 phones to 10K+ phones and 1K+ UCCE agents) that actually became deployed projects,
all but 1 are deployed on UCS with an exception for a customer that has a rigorous hardware qualification process and won't qualify UCS for use in their data centers. <br>
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-matthew<br>
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, <<a href="mailto:John.VanLaecke@ghd.com" target="_blank">John.VanLaecke@ghd.com</a>> wrote:
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</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The C Class UCS server is cheaper than the bare metal box.</span><span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">cisco-voip <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">></span>
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Ah - well, supported and sold are two different things I guess.<br>
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The supported platforms will help if you have the platforms already, but not if you are looking to buy new. I do recall quite a few of them being EOL'ed, especially the H series, but you'd have to check the price list and your account team for availability.<br>
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There is always the SWONLY option (which is much cheaper). As far as I know, they are MCS equivalents so they are supported.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"Erick Wellnitz" <</span><span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><b><br>
To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><b><br>
Cc: </b>"cisco-voip" <</span><span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><b><br>
Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08:01 PM<b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
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I'm getting conflicting information from someone at Cisco is all.<br>
They told me they aren't selling MCS servers any longer.<br>
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On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">>
wrote:<br>
> did it not provide the answers you were looking for? is it not up to date?<br>
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> ---<br>
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</span><span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
> Cc: "cisco-voip" <</span><span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:32 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
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> I've spent more time looking at that document than I care to think about.<br>
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> On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <</span><span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">>
wrote:<br>
>> Pretty sure they are. Here are some ref docs<br>
>><br>
>> </span><span><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br>
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>> ---<br>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <</span><span><a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
>> To: "cisco-voip" <</span><span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:30:38 PM<br>
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware<br>
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>> Quick question as I think I've gone and confused myself.<br>
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>> Are tehre still options wit hCM 8.6 for non-virtualized environments?<br>
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