<div>You will be "forced" to pick a licensing model going forward with Cisco UC. The AlaCarte (DLU) licensing is going away for good and you will need to true up all your user/phone licenses to CUWL or UCL licensing. This will be enforced when you attempted to renew your UCSS or perform a purchased upgrade.</div>
<div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM, David Zhars <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com">dzhars@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I have never, and probably will never (since they keep changing it) understand Cisco licensing!� lol! So what if I buy a spare today, say from CDW?� Say a spare wireless phone.� Now what if I have 100 extra DLUs unused on my CM 8.� Would that phone work, or do I still need to buy an RTU?<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bill Riley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net" target="_blank">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If that is the case you will need to send an e-mail to <a href="mailto:licensing@cisco.com" target="_blank">licensing@cisco.com</a> explaining what you had and get the DLU�s for the phones. You may have to show proof of purchase but I don�t think it will come to that. I did have to get the Cisco AM involved once to get the licensing issued for a customer.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>�<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Not sure if you would actually be entitled to the DLU�s or not. If you bought the spare part number with the = sign attached then you never technically purchased the RTU license to allow you to use that phone with CCM. The idea would have been you purchased a phone with the RTU and it failed. You then replaced that phone with the spare phone. You only used one phone at any given time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>�<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>�<u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> David Zhars [mailto:<a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com" target="_blank">dzhars@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bill Riley; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCM 8.x and Spares<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">No I didn't license them to my 4.x install.� I kept them on a shelf in the event we needed them!<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Bill Riley <<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net" target="_blank">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes it will work if you have the DLU�s. Did you register them to your CCM on 4.x before the upgrade to 8.x? The upgrade licensing procedure would have taken care of this for all of the spare phones. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">�</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">�</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">�</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Zhars<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] UCM 8.x and Spares</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Now that the licensing is so different from the 4.x generation, where you bought each phone with a license and there were spares (marked with an equal sign in the part number), how does all that transfer over to 8.x?� Say I have a phone with the = on the end of the PN, if I connect it to my network running 8.x, will it work (as long as I have enough DLUs or whatnot on my CM)?<br>
<br>Thank you.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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