<div>You will be "forced" to pick a licensing model going forward with Cisco UC. The AlaCarte (DLU) licensing is going away for good and you will need to true up all your user/phone licenses to CUWL or UCL licensing. This will be enforced when you attempted to renew your UCSS or perform a purchased upgrade.</div>
<div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM, David Zhars <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com">dzhars@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I have never, and probably will never (since they keep changing it) understand Cisco licensing! lol! So what if I buy a spare today, say from CDW? Say a spare wireless phone. Now what if I have 100 extra DLUs unused on my CM 8. Would that phone work, or do I still need to buy an RTU?<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bill Riley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net" target="_blank">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If that is the case you will need to send an e-mail to <a href="mailto:licensing@cisco.com" target="_blank">licensing@cisco.com</a> explaining what you had and get the DLU’s for the phones. You may have to show proof of purchase but I don’t think it will come to that. I did have to get the Cisco AM involved once to get the licensing issued for a customer.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Not sure if you would actually be entitled to the DLU’s or not. If you bought the spare part number with the = sign attached then you never technically purchased the RTU license to allow you to use that phone with CCM. The idea would have been you purchased a phone with the RTU and it failed. You then replaced that phone with the spare phone. You only used one phone at any given time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> David Zhars [mailto:<a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com" target="_blank">dzhars@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bill Riley; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCM 8.x and Spares<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">No I didn't license them to my 4.x install. I kept them on a shelf in the event we needed them!<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Bill Riley <<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net" target="_blank">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes it will work if you have the DLU’s. Did you register them to your CCM on 4.x before the upgrade to 8.x? The upgrade licensing procedure would have taken care of this for all of the spare phones. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Zhars<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] UCM 8.x and Spares</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Now that the licensing is so different from the 4.x generation, where you bought each phone with a license and there were spares (marked with an equal sign in the part number), how does all that transfer over to 8.x? Say I have a phone with the = on the end of the PN, if I connect it to my network running 8.x, will it work (as long as I have enough DLUs or whatnot on my CM)?<br>
<br>Thank you.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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