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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you have available DLUs the phone will consume them and work. There is no technical need to install any more license files. Legally since you are on 8.0
you are in theory Licensed either via UCL or CUWL and would need the appropriate licensing on paper to be able to use the phone.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The future is pretty darn clear at this point. When 9.0 releases DLUs will be gone, and licensing will be enforced with respect to what your paper licensing
says. To get a preview of how that will go work, join CUG if you haven’t already and participate in the open beta for User Count Tool:
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/go/cug">www.cisco.com/go/cug</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Zhars<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 10, 2012 8:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike King; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 7925 Wireless Setup<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks Mike.<br>
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I did have the deployment guide, but sheesh! I started going through it and it is a bit overwhelming. And of course, the standard Cisco line "if we didn't make it, then it's junk"....<br>
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Our access point is a DLink, but I do have a spare Cisco 4410 kicking around, so I suppose I will just set that up instead!<br>
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As far as the licensing stuff goes, I just give up, lol! When we converted from 4.1 to 8.0, my VAR used some super secret tool, that gave me enough DLU's to cover all I had. As we have moved things around and not replaced a few people, I have spare DLU's
unused. Everyone is unclear if I can just setup the phone and it will use the free DLUs. Everyone is even less clear about Cisco's future direction, which seems to be that DLUs will go away, and every device will need a proper license.
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I will go through this a bit more today and post more questions as I start to trip up!<br>
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Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Mike King <<a href="mailto:me@mpking.com">me@mpking.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here's the deployment guide:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7925g/7_0/english/deployment/guide/7925dply.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7925g/7_0/english/deployment/guide/7925dply.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3rd party access points are not supported, as there is no interoperability testing performed against 3rd party access points<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So what does that mean? It will work, and it should even work very well. You just can't call Cisco TAC and complain if your having a roaming problem of any kind. (Pretty much the only situation I can think of where they would ask what
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cisco has CCKM, which improves roaming speed to under 100ms, so there is that performance impact. (I think WPA2 has a standardized support for something similar, called Pre-Auth or something)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Other things that might be "Cisco Specific" are the call admission control. Basically you setup the AP's to only allow so many phone calls per Access Point, so you don't oversubscribe an access point.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Take a look at the guide, it's over 100 pages, and talks quite abit about wireless technology in general. Then ask some more questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for the license, I wasn't aware of any thing specific, I've built 7925 on both UCM 7 and 8, and they just used DLU's. Least, that's all my Cisco Partner sold me.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM, David Zhars <<a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com" target="_blank">dzhars@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Just received a 7925 wireless phone that I need to setup.<br>
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First, Cisco sent me some sort of license file. I suppose I must download this to a thumb drive, then somehow import it into UCM?
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Second, can the phone run over ANY wireless device or must it be a Cisco WAP?<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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