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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think what Wes is saying is that SCCP v20 is not out yet, so your back to the current shipping Version 19. Is that correct Wes?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wonder if Version 20 means a ASA upgrade for SCCP inspection?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erik Goppel<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Wes Sisk; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Verify which device and firmware have sccp v 20 support<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Wes,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>thanks for the feedback, but unfortunately it does not help me that much.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The reason why i am asking is, i am currently working on a design, that requires the usage of a sip trunk with early-offer support.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My end-customer does not want to use a CUBE (against my advice, but ok), so i needed to check some items regarding the earl-offer requirements. (as the sip provider offers sip trunks with early offer)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As per Cisco documentation, it states that there is no MTP requirement for an early-offer sip trunk, when the call is initiated from the following devices:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cisco Unified Communications Manager supports early offer (without requiring MTP) when the call gets initiated from one of the following devices:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>•SIP phones<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>•SCCP phones with SCCP v20 support (which provides media port information through the getPort capability)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>•MGCP gateways<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>•Incoming H323 fast start calls<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>•Incoming early offer SIP trunk calls<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Now to ensure my customer is using SCCP phones with SCCP version 20, i need to know which endpoints are capable of handling SCCP version 20.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also, i need to know in which firmware version this is enabled, so the deployment will be rolled-out with the correct version.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If i do need to make use of the MTP`s (as far as i have researched, the need to be HW based MTP`s with IOS 15.1.(2)T) , my business case for the requirement of the CUBE suddenly becomes a lot better.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The problem is right now, that i in the middle of a discussion between Service Provider and Customer, whereas the SP is trying to convince the customer that they don`t need the CUBE, as their service offering is based upon interop testing with CUCM 8.5(1) with early-offer, and (according to the SP) a CUBE is not required.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Besides all the other benefits of using a CUBE, the case is hanging on the support for early-offer of endpoints right now.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So i need this information to provide a more clear picture, regarding the "other" consequences of not using a CUBE to interface with the Service Provider.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have got 3 other projects lined up, where this same SP is their preffered partner for PSTN access, and i want to prevent having these same discussions again and again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Maybe i have clarified, the situation a bit more, and maybe you can use this internally, as seeing the Cisco documentation (New and Changed for Cisco Unified Communications Manager 8.5(1) ) -> <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_5_1/delta/delta.html#wp1849900">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_5_1/delta/delta.html#wp1849900</a> is referencing SCCP version 20, but it is impossible to verify if the devices are actually supported.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hope you can help me, you can unicast me if desired or required.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Erik Goppel<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Technical Consultant Unified Communications<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dimension Data Netherlands.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Wes Sisk <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is significant disagreement on whether this information should be publicly available. To that end it generally is not documented in any customer facing material.<br><br>/wes<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Erik Goppel wrote:<br><br>Hi,<br><br>I`ve been searching a lot, but i quess i need some help.<br>I would like to know, how i can verify if an endpoint supports SCCP v20.<br>Additionally, how can i verify which firmware version introduces SCCP v20 support.<br><br>I am not looking for a check on a system, but i would like to know which documents on CCO can show which endpoint supports sccp v20 and in which firmware version this should be.<br>I think it is starting with release 9.x of the firmware, but not completely sure.<br><br><br>Please advise<br><br>( maybe Wes knows the links :-) )<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='color:white'>itevomcid</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>