Dennis,<div><br></div><div>I kept pushing my TAC engineer for the ITL issues I experienced when I added a devicepack, and eventually this is what I got back. (I don't have the email in front of me, so this is paraphrased:  (This was under 8.5, I think 8.6 is different based on comments made on the list)</div>
<div><br></div><div>"Sometimes Database replication between PUB and SUB can be delayed, up to 20 minutes, and with a ITL file regeneration, you could possibly reboot the subscriber before it gets updated by the PUB"</div>
<div><br></div><div>How did you change the phone to use the "other" PUB or SUB if the ITL file was dorked on the phone?  I thought when the ITL file was wrong, the phone wouldn't take any updates from the Node it's registering to.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mike</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Dennis Heim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@cdw.com">Dennis.Heim@cdw.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dennis Heim<br>
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CDW  Advanced Technology Services<br>
10610 9<sup>th</sup> Place<br>
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<b>To:</b> Dennis Heim<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let us know if that fixes it, it's a subtle detail that a secondary TVS service is required in order to re-validate/update ITL file entries, I know I've created many a test device pool with only one entry in the CMGroup, so I'm sure someone
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10610 9<sup>th</sup><span> </span>Place<br>
Bellevue, WA 98004<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Stephen
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<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:51 PM<br>
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CDW  Advanced Technology Services<br>
10610 9<sup>th</sup><span> </span>Place<br>
Bellevue, WA 98004<br>
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