<div class="gmail_extra">That was my first reaction, Mike.  This isn't the worst of the unneccessary risk taking in their plan.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Fortunately, I've done a similar migration before so I'm preparing a plan based off that.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I may have a few more questions over the next ouple of days while I prepare to sell it to upper management.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Mike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">If your current partner is using that upgrade plan then you need to switch partners immediately. If you install any version prior to 8.x on VMWARE the database will be marked as “UNSUPPORTED”<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">If you need to move from 6.x to 8.x on VMWARE without disrupting the production environment then you should use the swing server technique.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><span>1)<span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman'">      </span></span></span><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Install current CM version w/ patches on swing server<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><span>2)<span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman'">      </span></span></span><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Backup/restore to swing server<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><span>3)<span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman'">      </span></span></span><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Upgrade swing server to current 8.x version<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><span>4)<span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman'">      </span></span></span><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Backup/restore from swing server to VMWARE <u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><span>5)<span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman'">      </span></span></span><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Install licenses and test.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><span>6)<span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman'">      </span></span></span><u></u><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Swap cables to VMWARE<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt"> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erick Wellnitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 23, 2012 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] upgrade path question<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Okay,<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was under the impression that the following wasn't supported but a Cisco partner put this in their upgrade plan for moving from 6.1.3 to 8.6(2a).<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d">“</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Install an exact VM copy of the current Call Manager including the ES/SRs on the new UCS Hardware.</span><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Export a copy of the current Call Manager Publisher database and restore it on the new VM. Change the</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">IP Address of the new virtualized Publisher to match the new IP scheme and clean up any IP Addresses &</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Service URLs that pointed towards the old environment. Proceed to upgrade the Publisher to version</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">8.0(3) then to 8.6(2a).”</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">I've never seen this in any of the supported upgrade methods in any Cisco document.  It would also seem you'd run into licensing issues.  I also thought someone here wanted to do something similar and the finding was the database would still be marked as unsuppoted.  Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.</span><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><br>Thanks!</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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