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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you guys for the pointers<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Rgds
Andy</pre>
On 02/07/2012 14:33, Ryan Ratliff wrote:<br>
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type="cite">To add to Dennis' previous email keep in mind if you
go through an 8.x interim release you are doing security due to
SBD. With SBD it is imperative you do a full cluster restore
(from 8.x to 8.x+) and that database replication is good before
you point phones to the cluster because we keep certificates in
the database and private keys on the filesystem and DRS backup.
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<div>We are working to update the documentation to call out these
risks and the recommended mitigations. <br>
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<div>On Jun 30, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Heim, Dennis wrote:</div>
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“show itl” from the ssh of each cucm node will
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font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com">mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>]<span
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<b>Sent:</b><span
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June 30, 2012 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="mailto:andy.carse@gmail.com">andy.carse@gmail.com</a>;
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Heim, Dennis<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[cisco-voip] Staging/ Bridge server upgrades.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">I
would consider restoring tftp servers if you have
a lot of custom ringtones, wallpaper, etc. Else
you can restore them from tar backup file.<br>
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<b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Heim,
Dennis [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Received:</b><span
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30 Jun 2012, 7:22am<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andy
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[cisco-voip] Staging/ Bridge server upgrades.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
Unless you are doing stuff with
security/certificates or have a lot of MOH files
where it would be painful to copy them over, there
is no reason to bring the subscribers with you
through multi-stage upgrades. I have almost always
just moved the pub through the various versions
and then reinstalled the subs from scratch. I
think you are supposed to be able to go from
7.1(3) to 8.0(3), but it never works for me, I
have to stop as 7.1(5). It has been awhile, so I
can't remember exactly.<br>
<br>
Dennis Heim<br>
Sr. UC Engineer<br>
World Wide Technology<br>
Office: 314.212.1814<br>
Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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Of Andy<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:02 AM<br>
To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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Subject: [cisco-voip] Staging/ Bridge server
upgrades.<br>
<br>
I know this subject has been covered in many other
conversations, but I can't find this particular
question/ answer in them.<br>
<br>
I have been trying to complete an upgrade from
7.0.2 to 8.5.1 (via<br>
7.1.5) using a set of staging servers, but the
process I have been given requires that
replication is checked after each version upgrade.<br>
This has caused me quite a lot of pain!<br>
<br>
So for what I think should be a quite
straightforward process<br>
<br>
1. Take DRS bakup from production.<br>
2. Build Staging server to Production CUCM
version.<br>
3. DRS Restore to Staging Server (Publisher only?)
4. Upgrade via an intermediate version of CUCM (if
required) 5. Install Software licence files for
new version of CUCM on Staging server 6. DRS
Backup on the required version of CUCM.<br>
7. Build new version on UCS.<br>
8. DRS Restore.<br>
9. Rehome licences to new Publisher.<br>
10. Build new Subscribers.<br>
11. Test<br>
12. Cutover<br>
<br>
Why would you upgrade subscribers as well as we
are really only interested in getting the
publisher database to the correct version of code.<br>
<br>
So assuming the process in Ok, is there any
benefit from trying to test after each upgrade.<br>
<br>
Is it required?<br>
<br>
Or as I've found you just open yourself up to a
"world of pain" and frustration.<br>
<br>
I don't suppose there is a cisco doc for this that
someone can point me at, as I'd really not want to
go through this again<br>
<br>
--<br>
Rgds<br>
<br>
Andy<br>
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