<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To add to Dennis' previous email keep in mind if you go through an 8.x interim release you are doing security due to SBD. With SBD it is imperative you do a full cluster restore (from 8.x to 8.x+) and that database replication is good before you point phones to the cluster because we keep certificates in the database and private keys on the filesystem and DRS backup. <div><br></div><div>We are working to update the documentation to call out these risks and the recommended mitigations. <br><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jun 30, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Heim, Dennis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">And doing a “show itl” from the ssh of each cucm node will give you an idea if you got a shot of having valid SBD (security by default) working on the new cluster.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Dennis Heim</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Sr. UC Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">World Wide Technology<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Office: 314.212.1814<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@wwt.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">dennis.heim@wwt.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><a href="http://www.wwt.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.wwt.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jason Aarons (AM) [mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:27 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:andy.carse@gmail.com">andy.carse@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>; Heim, Dennis<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Staging/ Bridge server upgrades.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">I would consider restoring tftp servers if you have a lot of custom ringtones, wallpaper, etc. Else you can restore them from tar backup file.<br><br>Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (<a href="http://www.nitrodesk.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.nitrodesk.com</a>)<br><br>-----Original Message-----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Heim, Dennis [<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>]<br><b>Received:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, 30 Jun 2012, 7:22am<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andy [<a href="mailto:andy.carse@gmail.com">andy.carse@gmail.com</a>];<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>]<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Staging/ Bridge server upgrades.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br>Unless you are doing stuff with security/certificates or have a lot of MOH files where it would be painful to copy them over, there is no reason to bring the subscribers with you through multi-stage upgrades. I have almost always just moved the pub through the various versions and then reinstalled the subs from scratch. I think you are supposed to be able to go from 7.1(3) to 8.0(3), but it never works for me, I have to stop as 7.1(5). It has been awhile, so I can't remember exactly.<br><br>Dennis Heim<br>Sr. UC Engineer<br>World Wide Technology<br>Office: 314.212.1814<br>Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@wwt.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">dennis.heim@wwt.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a href="http://www.wwt.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.wwt.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>On Behalf Of Andy<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:02 AM<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Subject: [cisco-voip] Staging/ Bridge server upgrades.<br><br>I know this subject has been covered in many other conversations, but I can't find this particular question/ answer in them.<br><br>I have been trying to complete an upgrade from 7.0.2 to 8.5.1 (via<br>7.1.5) using a set of staging servers, but the process I have been given requires that replication is checked after each version upgrade.<br>This has caused me quite a lot of pain!<br><br>So for what I think should be a quite straightforward process<br><br>1. Take DRS bakup from production.<br>2. Build Staging server to Production CUCM version.<br>3. DRS Restore to Staging Server (Publisher only?) 4. Upgrade via an intermediate version of CUCM (if required) 5. Install Software licence files for new version of CUCM on Staging server 6. DRS Backup on the required version of CUCM.<br>7. Build new version on UCS.<br>8. DRS Restore.<br>9. Rehome licences to new Publisher.<br>10. Build new Subscribers.<br>11. Test<br>12. Cutover<br><br>Why would you upgrade subscribers as well as we are really only interested in getting the publisher database to the correct version of code.<br><br>So assuming the process in Ok, is there any benefit from trying to test after each upgrade.<br><br>Is it required?<br><br>Or as I've found you just open yourself up to a "world of pain" and frustration.<br><br>I don't suppose there is a cisco doc for this that someone can point me at, as I'd really not want to go through this again<br><br>--<br>Rgds<br><br>Andy<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br><span style="color: white; ">itevomcid</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</div></span></div><br></div></div></body></html>