<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Just to add to this, an important point we thought is the whole process of hosting/rehosting/backups/connections.<br><br>Unlike the IOS licensing manager version, ELM is a real-time licensing manager, i.e. there is a constant communications path between the ELM and the hosts which talk to it.<br><br>There was some interesting talk about what happens when the licenses are oversubscribed/unavailable, and in a nutshell, it was at the discretion of the product manager. So, for CallManager, things continue working, but no changes are available. For Unity, things stop working. There is a grace period I believe which is different for each product.<br><br>To make things a little more complicated on the ELM side, but easier on the product side, the licenses are hosted to the ELM. But there is no backup currently, so if you have to rebuild your ELM, you have to rehost the licenses.<br><br>This is all from memory from one of the Cisco Live Sessions and is subject to change obviously. But the jist is there.<br><span><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b>To: </b>"Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "cisco.voip" <cisco.voip@verizon.net>, "Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff@cisco.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:53:55 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUCM v9.0<br><br><style>p { margin: 0; }</style><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000">ELM is the licensing manager node that you need to install that manages licenses for the UC software such as CallManager, Unity Connection, etc (not sure what else).<br><br>It operates as a license storage node (think license pooling) for products and quantities. So if you purchase 10,000 user licenses for CallManager, you can install one, two or three clusters and share these licenses (not concurrently mind you, but as a bank). <br><br>Basically, it's the UC version of the IOS licensing manager software. <br><br>I asked why the two were separated, and the presenters did respond that it was a valid question. ;)<br><span><br><span></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff@cisco.com><br><b>Cc: </b>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "cisco.voip" <cisco.voip@verizon.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:47:27 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUCM v9.0<br><br>What is ELM???<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jonathan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Ratliff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">On the main splash page (<a href="http://ip.address.of.cm" target="_blank">http://ip.address.of.cm</a>) do you have a link to CCMAdmin and ELM or just ELM?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:18 AM, cisco.voip wrote:</div><br><div>The first web page that comes up is the Enterprise Licensing Manager, which is new.<br>Then when I navigate to the famaliar CCM pages, serivceablity, admin, OS admin, the login doesn;t work and I get a database communication error. Is there any services that need to be started on the console prior to launching the GUI?<br>
<br>Thanks,<br><br><br><br>On 7/11/2012 3:11 AM, Roger Wiklund wrote:<br><blockquote>I installed the CUCM 9.0.1 Beta on my ESXi 5. Worked like a charm.<br></blockquote><blockquote>It comes with a 60 day demo license. License manager is included.<br>
</blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>What do you mean cant login? You have to be more specific, incorrect<br></blockquote><blockquote>username/password, webpage not loading at all etc?<br>
</blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>/Roger<br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:31 AM, cisco.voip <<a href="mailto:cisco.voip@verizon.net" target="_blank">cisco.voip@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>All,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>upon loading the CCM9 DVD in vmware, i am not able to login.<br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote><blockquote>Is there any instructions on the net to load it?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Does it come with the demo licenses like previous versions?<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Thanks<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>
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