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<div>I'm naturally predisposed to Cisco products, but one this Microsoft has is its tight integration with Active Directory. I'm on a Jabber for Everyone project right now and the biggest pain points I've experienced is (a) Cisco's inability to effectively
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><Heim>, Dennis <<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, September 10, 2012 8:10 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Mark Holloway <<a href="mailto:mh@markholloway.com">mh@markholloway.com</a>>, Ted Nugent <<a href="mailto:tednugent73@gmail.com">tednugent73@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.0 Demo License?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">I suspect that MS and Cisco will contain to be more of less feature parity between each other. The question between choosing Cisco and Microsoft, is it better
to put some of the power in hardware or do you put it all in software…remember time is relative ;-).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Dennis Heim</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Sr. UC Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Holloway<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 10, 2012 9:06 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.0 Demo License?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You wouldn't believe how many customers I visit that are planning to phase out their current deployment and replace it with Lync. It's not something I would personally consider today, but having a big-picture view of the customer landscape,
it's pretty scary to see what's coming down the pipeline. When Lync 2013 is GA with H.264 video support and a mobile client that can make/receive calls, that is going to shake things up quite a bit. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Ted Nugent wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">you still have NFR however for resellers with big labs that doesn't help much because the major offices get them and us little guys get the shaft.... I've heard they only get 3 per org (at least that's what I was told when I asked for one)....
for those of us that have small office labs we're stuck. we need to reinstall every 90 days (6 months if we get the eval lic) but that's stall aggravating. Just when we get our lab where we need them to be we have to reinstall...? sure it's in line with other
competitors but those other competitors don't require 6+ servers make make up their portfolio. Cisco's licensing will be (and is currently) the bane of their product lines and that's from someone that's watching it unfold in the field.... There isn't a day
that goes by that I don't hear a customer bitching about licensing!! I know Cisco is TRYING to make licensing easier for the end user but screwing the partners at the same time is really the wrong way of doign it..... Just sayin...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 5:53 PM, gwenzit <<a href="mailto:gwenzit@gmail.com" target="_blank">gwenzit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Mark Holloway <<a href="mailto:mh@markholloway.com" target="_blank">mh@markholloway.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Bummer, no more free 150 non-expiring DLU's when installing CUCM 9 in VMWare. <o:p></o:p></p>
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>From what I saw, it does expire in a couple of days( I think 90 days) but the demo license does come preinstalled.<br>
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