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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’ve moved from H.323 to SIP for our gateways, all except Germany because UCM can’t do SIP overlap dialing. I think from what I remember the gateways could
do it, but I might be wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It was very hard for me to find a TAC engineer who could help with overlap dialing issues, let alone know what that really was.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Nate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christian Kratzer<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cube sip overlap dialing support status ....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It's worth noting that overlap sending is a specific way of receiving digits over ISDN. An intial setup is sent and then additional digits are sent over time in other messages to complete the dialing. An overlapping
dial plan is still fine. If you're doing SIP in Germany my first guess is that they will not be doing overlap sending over SIP simply because there's limited support for it in most SIP software. If you have to convert an ISDN line to SIP, then it is definitely
a concern if you're currently doing overlap sending.<br>
<br>
-nick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Christian Kratzer <<a href="mailto:ck-lists@cksoft.de" target="_blank">ck-lists@cksoft.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Erich,<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Erich Novak wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
if you've got access to Cisco Live 365 (<a href="https://www.ciscolive365.com" target="_blank">https://www.ciscolive365.com</a>) -<br>
view the advanced dialplan design session by Johannes Krohn - very<br>
informative - and somewhere in the middle of the video he mentions, that<br>
overlap sending is not supported on SIP trunks -neither CUCM nor CUBE. It<br>
is something he wants on the roadmap, but it is definitely not in CUCM<br>
9.0...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thanks for the pointer and the confirmation. I will check out the session. Looks quite interesting anyway ;)<br>
<br>
Greetings<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">Christian</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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brgds<br>
Erich<br>
<br>
Am 21.09.12 17:38 schrieb "Christian Kratzer" unter <<a href="mailto:ck-lists@cksoft.de" target="_blank">ck-lists@cksoft.de</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi,<br>
<br>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Nick Matthews wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is called overlap sending in Cisco world and should be supported as<br>
far as I know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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apparantly this is not supported on SIP trunks as I cannot find any<br>
details on how to configure overlap sending on sip.<br>
<br>
It does work on ISDN and there is support for SCCP and even SIP phones<br>
registering to a CME router. H323 shoud also work.<br>
<br>
I just can't find any support for overlap sending with SIP going out of<br>
CUBE.<br>
<br>
I would be interested on confirming this and hearing about any roadmaps<br>
to add overlap sending to sip trunks.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As well, overlapping dial plans are supported and shouldn't<br>
cause problems in standard CUBE scenarios, minus some potential for call<br>
looping if not properly configured. I would use 'huntstop' on the last<br>
possible dial peer for any given situation to make sure it doesn't hunt<br>
down the wrong path potentially.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Greetings<br>
Christian<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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-nick<br>
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) <<br>
<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Why not press # when done dialing?****<br>
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*From:* <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<br>
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] *On Behalf Of *Christian Kratzer<br>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:26 PM<br>
*To:* <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
*Cc:* Christian Kratzer<br>
*Subject:* [cisco-voip] Cube sip overlap dialing support status<br>
....****<br>
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<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
not sure if my google foo is broken but I cannot find any information<br>
on<br>
sip overlap dialing (rfc3578) support on cisco CUBE.<br>
<br>
I would like to retain the user experience of instant dialing when<br>
migrating from isdn to sip trunks. We have wildly varying dial plans<br>
in germany with no way to guess the length of the number so overlap<br>
dialing is the only way to stop users complaining about the interdigit<br>
delay.<br>
<br>
Greetings<br>
Christian<br>
<br>
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