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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think it’s carrier stuff, the FCC won’t knock on your door if you have an end user forwarding his phone -jason<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heim, Dennis<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 12, 2012 11:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> Adam Frankel (afrankel); Joshua Marsh<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Is TEHO Now Illegal?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This seems like more reason to go SIP. I don’t think its illegal, I think its that Century Link wants additional compensation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dennis Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sr. UC Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>World Wide Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Office: 314.212.1814<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Email: <a href="mailto:dennis.heim@wwt.com">dennis.heim@wwt.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.wwt.com/">www.wwt.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Frankel (afrankel)<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joshua Marsh<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Is TEHO Now Illegal?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=QCMcontainer><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Can't speak to the legal aspects of TEHO in the US, but to your second point preventing TEHO is the entire purpose of Geolocation/Logical Partitioning feature introduced in 8.x. <br>All customers I've seen using this feature so far are in India. <br><br><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/dialplan.html#wp1228408">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/dialplan.html#wp1228408</a><span class=headerspan><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Joshua Marsh <a href="mailto:jmarsh@compunet.biz"><jmarsh@compunet.biz></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thu, Oct 11, 2012 1:43:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br><b>CC:</b> <br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Is TEHO Now Illegal?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Hello, all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>This post is in regards to a recent letter from CenturyLink (CL) warning a customer that TEHO is no longer allowed, based on the FCC's 11-161 ruling. It appears that CL's interpretation of this ruling is that TEHO w/o inter-carrier compensation is not allowed and can result in termination of service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Here is a quick summary of highlights from that letter: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>"CL has filed tariff changes that impact the services provided to ISDN primary rate service subscribers . . . FCC released an order on intercarrier compensation (FCC 11-161, released Nov 18, 2011) that clarified . . . VOIP PSTN Traffic. ...What is defined as Toll-PSTN Traffic must be compensated at applicable interstate switched access charges. CL has filed tariff changes that make clear that ... PR services may not be used for the exchange of Toll VOIP=PSTN traffic . . . this notice is being sent to inform you that Customer must begin using services received consistent w/ the FCC's order and applicable law. For customers using PRS/PRI services from CL, Toll VOIP-PSTN traffic may not be exchanged . . . we will take action not limited to cancellation of services . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>So I did read a bit of the 752 page document from the FCC, but I'm still a bit stumped here. First off, they define “VoIP-PSTN traffic” as “traffic</span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>exchanged over PSTN facilities that originates and/or terminates in IP format.” It appears that CL's interpretation of this is that a company cannot do TEHO across their different markets where they have dial tone. This has a huge effect on our dial plan design as well as how our customers do business.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>We do what I'm sure a lot of you do as well: use a global dialing plan and exensive route filters to make TEHO work across a nation-wide footprint. Has this been stopped in the name of competition? Are there any other Netpros who've seen similar letters? What is your take on this? Do we need to go undo our dial plans and turn-off TEHO? Even if we turn-off TEHO, a couple of users forwarding their phones could circumvent this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Thanks much,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>cisco-voip mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><br><br></span><span style='color:white'>itevomcid</span><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>