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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="000531723-13112012">I have seen other posts on this subject, and I may be a bit dim(!), but still I really don't understand the wherewithall behind (what I understand of) the Cisco
'demo' scenario for a software product that one might want to try out.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="000531723-13112012">"We're looking at replacing our current phone system - lets have a look at the current Cisco offering - download a demo and lets try it out." - er, OK Boss...</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="000531723-13112012">Am I missing something?</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="000531723-13112012">Thanks,</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="000531723-13112012">Ian </span></font></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Saskin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 November 2012 20:52<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco.voip<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] OVA files<br>
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9.0 requires ELM (enterprise license manager) for license management. You can request 9.0 demo licenses from the Cisco licensing page and then load them via ELM - similar to the previous lab license, just a different process (and unfortunately not perpetual
lab licenses like before).<br>
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-matthew<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:05 AM, cisco.voip <span dir="ltr">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Cool, thanks guys, I am using ESXi 5.1 and it installed successfully.<br>
Now need to get around the damn 60 day eval, unlike the 7.x where you get the 50 DLU's to Lab with without limitation.<br>
I am slowly getting to the point of considering evaluating other UC solutions due to licensing and support difficulties with Cisco.
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<div>On 11/12/2012 11:42 PM, Anthony Holloway wrote:<br>
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<div>Looks like the major difference is ESXi 5.0 support on the vmv8 one. Which do you have ESXi 4 or 5?</div>
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<div>Here's a table that shows vmx-08 supports ESXi 5.0 and vmx-07 supports ESXi 4.0/4.1:</div>
<div><a href="http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003746" target="_blank">http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003746</a><br>
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<div>This what I went through out of my own curiosity...</div>
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Here's a diff on the read me's (Shows support for ESXi 5.0):
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7.txt vmv8.txt</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">29c29</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< <span></span>- ESXi support: ESXi 4.0 (VM version 7) and beyond</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> <span></span>- ESXi support: ESXi 5.0 (VM version 8) and beyond</font></div>
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<div>Here's a diff on the OVF's (vmx-07 to cmx-08 change):</div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7/cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5.ovf vmv8/cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5.ovf</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">4,7c4,7</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk1.vmdk" ovf:id="60gb" ovf:size="85504"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk2.vmdk" ovf:id="80gb" ovf:size="88576"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk3.vmdk" ovf:id="160gbpart1" ovf:size="99840"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk4.vmdk" ovf:id="160gbpart2" ovf:size="80896"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk1.vmdk" ovf:id="60gb" ovf:size="85504"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk2.vmdk" ovf:id="80gb" ovf:size="88576"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk3.vmdk" ovf:id="160gbpart1" ovf:size="99840"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> <File ovf:href="cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk4.vmdk" ovf:id="160gbpart2" ovf:size="80896"/></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">101c101</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< <vssd:VirtualSystemType>vmx-07</vssd:VirtualSystemType></font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> <vssd:VirtualSystemType>vmx-08</vssd:VirtualSystemType></font></div>
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<div>Here are the diffs on the vmdks (Shows only the CIDs are different):</div>
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<div>*Note: I did a hex dump on the vmdks first</div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7/disk1.hex vmv8/disk1.hex</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">10c10</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 62 66 62 62 34 61 66 66 20 0a 70 |.CID=bfbb4aff .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 37 63 38 34 66 39 32 35 20 0a 70 |.CID=7c84f925 .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7/disk2.hex vmv8/disk2.hex</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">10c10</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 63 30 62 32 34 31 36 39 20 0a 70 |.CID=c0b24169 .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 37 64 37 65 38 33 31 34 20 0a 70 |.CID=7d7e8314 .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7/disk3.hex vmv8/disk3.hex</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">10c10</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 63 31 61 62 61 30 35 66 20 0a 70 |.CID=c1aba05f .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 37 65 37 36 30 31 64 34 20 0a 70 |.CID=7e7601d4 .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7/disk4.hex vmv8/disk4.hex</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">10c10</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 63 33 62 62 31 39 66 63 20 0a 70 |.CID=c3bb19fc .p|</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> 00000220 0a 43 49 44 3d 38 30 39 30 64 32 63 38 20 0a 70 |.CID=8090d2c8 .p|</font></div>
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<div>Here is the diff on the mf file (Shows the hashes have changed; as they should since the files are different):</div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace"><b>avholloway@holloway-server:~/Downloads$</b> diff vmv7/cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5.mf vmv8/cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5.mf</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">1,5c1,5</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5.ovf)= 8b61059a00df9fb6e18c602eadaaf344732b4d7e</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk1.vmdk)= f52ac9884402c9a92cd402d9c2bd6a9c6954921a</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk2.vmdk)= 4979b93ddefdf2b5d6d36b8e805238d5e029bf0f</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk3.vmdk)= a0ebea5bae7279a044577b443915eb62cc071643</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">< SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5-disk4.vmdk)= f60ef4aa81f10e59541f8ab096bad45109db221a</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5.ovf)= 89ab0d6b0ec22f0c2684c19ee8c948ba70f61490</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk1.vmdk)= ebf50679017dc8aa855f1319fe57f76c1c1ba213</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk2.vmdk)= a2d9fe45d2c4b72f65ef39a7deb60b15b5ce5303</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk3.vmdk)= db2542a16b15c3dced925d7867082d92e67e5ade</font></div>
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<div><font face="courier new, monospace">> SHA1(cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5-disk4.vmdk)= 3acd8e346a31fdd2ff26f6bcba3c9fafa7c65b00</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:16 PM, cisco.voip <span dir="ltr">
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All, have looked around, but can anyone tell me the difference between these two files -<br>
cucm_9.0_vmv7_v1.5.ova<br>
cucm_9.0_vmv8_v1.5.ova<br>
I am getting ready to install 9.0 and trying to figure out which template to use-<br>
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Thanks<br>
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