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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would double check this with Cisco but we where told that if at any time a CUCM 6 was built on a VM system even if only used as a bridging build the DB would
be marked at unsupported and would remain so no matter what upgrades where done in future,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alice Borgo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 December 2012 12:36<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Joe Martini'; 'Abebe Amare'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'cisco voip'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] R: CUCM6.1.4 Upgrade to 8.6.X on New Hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Joe, my intention is to install 6.0 without license in VMware environment and after upgrade to 6.1.4, only for import the actual DB of my customer
(In version 6.1.4).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After that i will upgrade from 6.1.4 to 8.6 the VMware copy, and the I will export DB in 8.6 version<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After, I will install a fresh copy of CUCM8.6 on MCS supported Hardware and import the Exported DB from 8.6 VMware environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Only after that i will put the license file on the MCS Supported server in 8.6.X version!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What do you think about that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I use the VMware copy only for Bridge Upgrade.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I understood the consideration for the SUB about TFTP, I'll need to upload again audio files and Firmware phone files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">REgards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">Da:</span></b><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif""> Joe Martini [<a href="mailto:joemar2@cisco.com">mailto:joemar2@cisco.com</a>]
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<b>Inviato:</b> mercoledì 5 dicembre 2012 12:56<br>
<b>A:</b> Abebe Amare<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alice Borgo; cisco voip<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM6.1.4 Upgrade to 8.6.X on New Hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT">A few things to point out. Installing or using any non 8.0.3 CUCM version on VMware is unsupported. I've personally seen issues with the license manager service when putting a pre 8.0.3 CUCM version on VMware as you're
looking to do, even after upgrading it to 8.x! The supported method requires an upgrade on the current MCS server to an 8.0.3 or later version, backup, restore to a VM running the same exact version. That's why we created bridged upgrades, so that you can
install 8.x on hardware that doesn't support it, simply to take a backup to move to VMware. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT">Adding to Abebe's reply, also remember that any custom TFTP files or MoH files will be lost using the rebuild method for the subscribers and letting them replicate. Remember to put back MoH files on the subscribers and
custom TFTP files, and even certificate loaded on the OS admin page for secure LDAP connections, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT">Again, I'd highly recommend not using the 6.x on VMware method.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT">Joe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT">On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Abebe Amare <<a href="mailto:abucho@gmail.com">abucho@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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you can install the subscriber directly on new hardware it will replicated the DB from the publisher.<br>
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regards,<br>
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Abebe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT">On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Alice Borgo <<a href="mailto:bertacco.alessandro@alice.it" target="_blank">bertacco.alessandro@alice.it</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Hi guys,</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> I need to Upgrade PUB + ONe SUB from 6.1.4 to 8.6.X on new MCS Hardware.</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Customer want upgrade without modification on the actual Cluster, so I can't upgrade in place the cucm 6.1.4.</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">So using VMware infrastructure i made an exact copy of the 6.1.4 customer cluster.</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Using Disaster Recovery export all PUB configuration from the Production Cluster and imported on the VMware copy.</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Afeter that I'll proceed with the upgrade step 6.1.4 -> 7.1.5.33900-10 -> RefreshUpgrade -> 8.6.1.2000-1 on the Virtualized environment
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">After that Using again DisasterRecovery export DB of the virtualized PUB and the Import again in the MCS Hardware PUB.</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Question for you!</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Need to make the same for the SUB, or is possible to install the SUB directly on the MCS Hardware without all the upgrade step ?</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you very much</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Regards</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Alessandro Bertacco</span><span lang="IT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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