<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>ok, thanks for the clarification. <br><br>dependency records FTW!<br><span><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff@cisco.com><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b>Cc: </b>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "Łukasz Pilatowski" <nimloth@nimloth.pl><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:28:44 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Dependancy records in CM 8.6.2<br><br>These particular dependency records were pulled back in 4.x so this is not a recent development nor is there any shift to dependency records going away in the future.<div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Dec 13, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; "><br>Not sure about others, but dependency records and their function are a big help in troubleshooting and management. While some may be comfortable with SQL and building queries, if the system is truly meant to be an appliance, then this tool should continue to be developed, rather than removed. I understand that there will always be a need for command line queries and they're much more powerful, but building one of those things can be daunting, especially without a data dictionary and/or experience.<br><br>I hope they stick around. If resources are an issue, perhaps there can be an enterprise parameter that says which server the queries run on and we can run them there. For example, I've got a TFTP server that sits there taking up space, I could either run the GUI on there or select that in a drop down.<br><br>Just my two cents.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span><br><span></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Ryan Ratliff" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Łukasz Pilatowski" <<a href="mailto:nimloth@nimloth.pl" target="_blank">nimloth@nimloth.pl</a>><br><b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:14:13 PM<br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [cisco-voip] Dependancy records in CM 8.6.2<br><br>Looks like it's not a bug, but an intentional removal from back in the day when it caused problems (dependency records used to be quite the resource hog).<div><br></div><div>The tables you want to look at are device and telecastersubscribedservice.</div><div><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">-Ryan</span></div><br><div><div>On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Łukasz Pilatowski <<a href="mailto:nimloth@nimloth.pl" target="_blank">nimloth@nimloth.pl</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin: 0px; ">It's bug in 8.6.2 - have same here.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Dnia 2012-12-13 16:17 Scott Voll napisał(a):</div><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; ">we have some ip phone services, and when we go to dependencies we have no records. I believe this is a bug but it shows fixed in 8.6.1.xxxxx so I would have thought it would not be in a 8.6.2 release.<div> </div><div>We will be opening a TAC case on that to confirm, but is there an SQL query we can do at the CLI that would show us what phones are subscribed to a particular ip phone service?</div><div> </div><div>Any help would be much appreciated.</div><div> </div><div>TIA<br> </div><div>Scott</div><hr style="width: 703px; ">_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></blockquote><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip<br></div><br></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</div></div></div><br></div></div></body></html>