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<br><div><div>On Dec 21, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Ahmed Elnagar <<a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@hotmail.com">ahmed_elnagar@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I have uploaded a license two days ago from demo to actual license and it requires CCM services restart.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray; ">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray; ">Ahmed Elnagar<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray; ">|<b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Unified Communication Team Leader<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>CCIE #24697, Voice<o:p></o:p></b></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><image001.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:cisco-<a href="mailto:voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:MManly@tep.com">MManly@tep.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 21, 2012 9:39 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>rratliff@cisco.com<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM license grace period<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I believe you do need to restart call manager service<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:36 PM, "Ryan Ratliff" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">You should see the warning go away immediately and if so you are good to go. License Manager picks up the new licenses as they are added so no restarts should be required.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">-Ryan</span></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:20 PM, "Norton, Mike" <<a href="mailto:mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks Ryan. What about when I do finally put in valid license files (before 30 days)? Will the cluster need rebooting?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">-mn</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@<a href="http://cisco.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco.com</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>December-21-12 8:49 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Norton, Mike<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Kenneth Hayes;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM license grace period</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA">Nothing will happen until the grace period expires. There wouldn't be much grace in grace period that cut you off early :)<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">-Ryan</span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA">On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, "Norton, Mike" <<a href="mailto:mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-CA">Even before the 30 days? I will get the proper license files eventually I'm just wondering if it is considered "okay" to rely on the grace period for a couple weeks so I can stuff my face with Christmas goodies instead. The error message implies the CM service will run for 30 days before stopping but I'm hoping somebody can confirm.<br><br>-mn<br><br>________________________________<br>From: Kenneth Hayes [<a href="mailto:kennethwhayes@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">kennethwhayes@gmail.com</span></a>]<br>Sent: December-20-12 4:06 PM<br>To: Norton, Mike<br>Cc:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM license grace period<br><br>Cisco Call Manager services will stop and cannot be restarted until you license the node. See if you can get the NFR Kit for Unified Communications.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On Dec 20, 2012, at 5:12 PM, "Norton, Mike" <<a href="mailto:mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca</span></a><<a href="mailto:mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">mailto:mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca</span></a>>> wrote:<br><br>If I run a cluster on invalid licenses, thus activating the 30-day grace period, are there any side effects other than the warning message about invalid licenses? I am planning to migrate a CUCM 8.6 cluster from MCS to Vmware using DRS and in my practice environment I get this error message:<br><br>“System is operating on Invalid licenses. Call Manager service will go down after the grace period of 30 days expires. Please obtain valid license files and upload.”<br><br>Obviously I will need to get the correct license files, but it would sure be handy if I can procrastinate on that until after the holidays. Just wondering if there are any gotchas about using the grace period. Is it “graceful” enough for production use? In my practice, I only tried migrating the publisher (not enough hardware resources to practice migrating the whole cluster). Once I do obtain the licenses, will the cluster need rebooting?<br><br>--<br>Mike Norton<br>I.T. 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