<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To close the loop on this the restriction was added in 8.6 (when refresh upgrade came in) because we don't test this upgrade between major versions and the fact that we started having to do OS reinstalls (refresh) for some combinations made the likelihood of failure too high.<div><br></div><div>It is not documented, and that will remedied in the Release Notes for 9.1 shortly and in the Upgrade/Install docs at some point in the future (they can't be changed as fast as release notes).</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Jan 2, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Well that’s good, I can just put a PUT order in edelivery and get it. Let’s see if it works.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Matthew G. Loraditch – CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA<br></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br>1965 Greenspring Drive</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Timonium, MD 21093</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br>voice. 410.252.8830<br>fax. 410.252.9284 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><a href="http://twitter.com/heliontech" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Twitter</a> | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Helion/252157915296" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Facebook</a> |<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Website</a> | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com?subject=Technical%20Support%20Request" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Email Support</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:cisco-<a href="mailto:voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ryan Ratliff<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:22 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim Frazee<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] upgrade during install from 9.0 to 9.1<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I was told this restriction was added around 8.5 but I'm still waiting on some other folks to comment.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">To get to 9.1 you either do a fresh install or you upgrade, same as any other version. I understand the release of 9.1 has immediately replaced 9.0 on new 9.x orders (much like 8.6 did for 8.5) so any 9.x media kit ordered today will be sent 9.1 bootable media.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">-Ryan</span></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jan 2, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Tim Frazee <<a href="mailto:tfrazee@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">tfrazee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>I could see that.<br><br>But tell that to my 8.5 upgrade from an 8.0 boot disk I was able to do back in the day......<br><br>In short, you say that the only way currently to get to 9.1 is upgrade from an already installed support version, not during the install process.<br><br><br><br>for the record and I know its not supported, I did try the hack of grabbing the boot info file from 9.0 and pushing it into the 9.1 iso. The install process failed post installing everything.<br><br>Thanks for digging Ryan.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Ryan Ratliff <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Confirmed I see it here in the lab and it looks to be intentional, though I'm still digging. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Initial word is for a while now upgrade-during-install is only supported to the same major/minor version. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Anything beyond that requires a separate upgrade after install.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="hoenzb"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136); "> </span></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(136, 136, 136); ">-Ryan</span><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136); "></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Tim Frazee <<a href="mailto:tfrazee@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">tfrazee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>I did just that. after I tried with the pre-release, I used my NFR iso. Same result.<br><br>I only used the pre-release because it was already on my datastore and i was feeling a bit lazy over vacation. After I attempted the same procedure with 9.0(1) -37 iso, I received the exact same error.<br><br>Ryan, should I be able to boot off of 9.0 and upgrade-during-install with 9.1?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Ryan Ratliff <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a href="tel:9.0.0.99101-22" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">9.0.0.99101-22</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is not a 9.0 ES, it's a pre-release build of 9.1. Throw it in the trash and try with a real 9.0 build (I'm going to start this now). <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Tim Frazee <<a href="mailto:tfrazee@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">tfrazee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>I didnt test to see if the 9.1 from CCO is bootable. In the past they havent been.<br><br>attached is a screenshoot of the error I received when I tried to feed the 9.1 via CCO during a booted-from-nfr9.0 media<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Nate VanMaren <<a href="mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I had lots of problems doing upgrade during installs with 9.0 ESs. The ESs are usually bootable so I just gave up and installed fresh. Is the 9.1 download bootable?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tim Frazee<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 31, 2012 3:50 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] upgrade during install from 9.0 to 9.1</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">This was for UCM and Unity Connection. didnt try anything else.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Tim Frazee <<a href="mailto:tfrazee@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">tfrazee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I have the 9.0 NFR and the 9.1 upgrade iso pulled from CCO.<br><br>I'm getting an error if I feed the 9.1 iso to the 9.0 install process that i want to upgrade during the install process. 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