<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.hoenzb
{mso-style-name:hoenzb;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RCC is still supported, but not the main focus of either company. CUCILync was basically a stop-gap until Cisco had Jabber ready. Now it’s the ‘red-head stepchild’ of both vendors. Cisco’s roadmap is no longer doing major improvements, and Microsoft only supported the APIs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What a majority of my customers end up with is a hybrid. Cisco does call center way better than Microsoft, and Microsoft does teleworkers far better than Cisco. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erick Wellnitz<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 22, 2013 2:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Brent Pollock<br><b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco Voice AND M$ Lync<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>I was under the impression that RCC is no longer supported. Maybe I misunderstood.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Brent Pollock <<a href="mailto:hashtagvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">hashtagvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>That was part of point, I don't want to bash Lync. I never enjoy vendor bashing and it would be hypocritical of me to do so. I am just trying to find the best implementation path for the environment without sacrificing end user experience. I am also wanting to limit the complex while avoiding buggy integration. I have been part of some discussion about the future of RCC and CUCI-lync by Cisco, any evidence to suggest these may cease to exist?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Gregory Wenzel <<a href="mailto:gwenzit@gmail.com" target="_blank">gwenzit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>it was mentioned to me during the iselin NJ partner SE Collaboration Bootcamp. I cant share the documents because of the agreement we have as a partner. I would show the benefits of Jabber rather than bash MS Lync. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Brent Pollock <<a href="mailto:hashtagvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">hashtagvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Interesting, I missed that. Where can I find that statement?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Gregory Wenzel <<a href="mailto:gwenzit@gmail.com" target="_blank">gwenzit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Cisco has stated not to go head to head with lync. show only the positives of Jabber because lync is a better product than Jabber.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Brent Pollock <<a href="mailto:hashtagvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">hashtagvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Anyone out there fight the Lync vs Jabber battle? Currently working on a presentation on features of both as well as what can be delivered using both. Anyone care to share suggestions or reference material?<br><br>TIA<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><br><br clear=all><br><span class=hoenzb>-- <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Greg Wenzel, CCNP Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><br><br clear=all><br><span class=hoenzb>-- <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Greg Wenzel, CCNP Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><span style='color:white'>itevomcid</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>