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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Great info guys. Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 03 June 2013 16:56<br><b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch<br><b>Cc:</b> Russell Chaseling; Nate VanMaren; 'Cisco-voip'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Export<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>More specifics on the jump upgrade will come when 9.2(1) is released.  One of the things that will change is that you won't need to get a license to proceed with your upgrade to 9.x.   The entire purpose of the jump is to avoid customers using a spare MCS server to bridge between 6.x/7.x and 9.x.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-Ryan</span></span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On May 31, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jump will be allowing 6.1.5 and 7.1.5 to be installed  in VMWare, thus allowing you to not have to upgrade a production cluster to 8.0.3. before going to 9.1</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I haven’t gotten a clear answer yet on what they are actually doing to make this work any differently than it functionally (but not supported) does now.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Matthew G. Loraditch – CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>1965 Greenspring Drive</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Timonium, MD 21093</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>voice. 410.252.8830<br>fax.  410.252.9284   <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br><a href="http://twitter.com/heliontech"><span style='color:purple'>Twitter</span></a>  | <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Helion/252157915296"><span style='color:purple'>Facebook</span></a>  |<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com/"><span style='color:purple'>Website</span></a>  | <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com?subject=Technical%20Support%20Request"><span style='color:purple'>Email Support</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-<a href="mailto:voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Russell Chaseling<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, May 31, 2013 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Nate VanMaren; 'Cisco-voip'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Export<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I suspected this might the case with BAT files between the two. What is a “jump” upgrade?</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Nate VanMaren [<a href="mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>31 May 2013 15:52<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Russell Chaseling; 'Cisco-voip'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE: CUCM Export</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The formats are different, so you will spend a very very long time fixing the bat csv files between the versions.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You might want to talk to your cisco se about “jump” upgrades, I think they’d fit your situation better.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Nate</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Russell Chaseling<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, May 31, 2013 7:01 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'Cisco-voip'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[cisco-voip] CUCM Export<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi all,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Have a query regarding building a Call Manager from scratch using a BAT export from another. Basically have to upgrade a 6.1.3 cluster on hardware to 9.1 an VMware. This site is a 24/7 operation using Extension Mobility. To do the upgrade it will need to be in 3 steps…..upgrade 6.1.3 to 8.0.3….backup to VMware….refresh upgrade to 9.1. This is going to cause more outages than the site can tolerate.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My question is can anyone see any issues with taking a BAT Export of the config on 6.13 and then importing it on the a new build of 9.1 with same IP details / Hostname – then making sure all configuration is the same between the two and unplugging old and plugging in new?</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>     <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I would assume all user / application passwords / PINs would be lost</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>2)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>     <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Possible certificate issues (but as verion 6 doesn’t have Security by Default) should be ok?</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone done an upgrade like this?</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Russell</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr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