<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'><br>it's a little different, however.<br><br>unplugging your phone at home doesn't unregister your phoneline from the CO.<br><br>powering off your cell phone will cause the calling party (in most cases) to be sent directly to your voice mail, and if no voicemail, they'll hear "the party has voicemail but has not configured it" or "the person is not available".<br><br>there are annunciators you can set up which will play something i believe.<br><span><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst, Data Centre and Communications Facilities<br>Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>University of Guelph<br><br>519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354<br>lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<br>Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Jason Aarons (AM)" <jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com><br><b>To: </b>"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff@cisco.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:30:22 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CFNA<br><br><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Similar to a cell phone or a home phone that doesn’t have a voicemail box, is there a service parameter to play ringback rather than fasy busy? </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you power off your cell phone or unplug your home phone from the wall you don’t get a fast busy.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jason Aarons (AM)<br><b>Cc:</b> Erick B.; cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CFNA</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">If the phone is unplugged what exactly do you expect to ring? CUCM only provides ringback when something is actually receiving the call. If there's nothing registered to receive the call, then we can't just play ringback for the fun of it. The fast-busy tells you that the destination is not in service and nothing is available as a backup destination.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">-Ryan</span></span> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Erick B. <<a href="mailto:erickbee@gmail.com" target="_blank">erickbee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">CFUR to an unused FXS port (SCCP, MGCP) or phone no one picks up? I've used a FXS port this way before for testing without having a phone ring somewhere. </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:</p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">So a phone that doesn’t have a voicemail box will ring fast busy when you unplug it? Sort of like a cell phone being turned off should ring fast busy when it’s off? I expected just a ring no answer from the PSTN side. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">How do I get a ring no answer for unplugged phones that don’t have vm, might be the better question?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jason Aarons (AM)<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CFNA</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I believe that is working by design. Before CFUR, it would indeed go directly to voicemail. With CFUR, it has to be populated. I believe it auto populates when you fill in CFNA though. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><br>Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 2013-06-04, at 6:30 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">CallManager 9.1</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Under Device > Phone > Line if you don’t setup CFUR but setup CFNA and unplug the phone shouldn’t you hear ring back calling from PSTN to 7965 then user’s voicemail? </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Customer states they hear fast busy unless the phone is plugged in. If I setup CFUR it rings direct to Voicemail. However for other reasons we don’t want to setup CFUR, just leave it blank as not all phones have voicemail and let CFNA values happen.</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><br><br><span style="color:white">itevomcid</span> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip<br></div></body></html>