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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No I didn’t install the UNRST version but someone did an upgrade to this in the past. Unfortunately I’m just trying to clean this mess up. All good now though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 30 July 2013 12:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dana Tong<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kenneth Hayes; Mike Lydick; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] [cisco-VoIP] Odd CUCM IP Phone Registration behavior during Migration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding UNRST and phones, the endpoints don't have any concept of restricted vs unrestricted. That is entirely internal to CUCM and only enables or disables security features.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully you didn't install the unrestricted version of CUCM unless you really are in an export restricted country. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Ryan <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 29, 2013, at 1:32 AM, Dana Tong <<a href="mailto:Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au">Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It seems to be a partial database corruption.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bulk Edit | Insert phones all details using the same CSV file that was used to create the phones.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dana</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">cisco-voip
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, 28 July 2013 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Kenneth Hayes; Mike Lydick<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] [cisco-VoIP] Odd CUCM IP Phone Registration behavior during Migration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I'm still leaning towards an issue with the previous upgrade to an UNRESTRICTED version. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dana Tong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">----- Reply message -----<br>
From: "Kenneth Hayes" <<a href="mailto:kennethwhayes@gmail.com"><span style="color:purple">kennethwhayes@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
To: "Mike Lydick" <<a href="mailto:mike.lydick@gmail.com"><span style="color:purple">mike.lydick@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
Cc: "Dana Tong" <<a href="mailto:Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au"><span style="color:purple">Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><span style="color:purple">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><span style="color:purple">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] [cisco-VoIP] Odd CUCM IP Phone Registration behavior during Migration<br>
Date: Sun, Jul 28, 2013 10:33 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Have you checked to see any ITL or CTL files on the phone?<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jul 27, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Mike Lydick <<a href="mailto:mike.lydick@gmail.com"><span style="color:purple">mike.lydick@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>What does the phone log say? What are the phone load version's? Also a packet capture would help diagnostic to see if the phone is get replys from the infrastructure (cdp dhcp sccp).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 27, 2013 7:28 PM, "Dana Tong" <<a href="mailto:Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au"><span style="color:purple">Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Yes. Tried that also and it failed. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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fresh install. Does this mean that there's something that is copied to the phone firmware that stops it from ever going back to a restricted release even on new hardware?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dana Tong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: "Travis L. Dennis" <<a href="mailto:tdennis@DataSourcePro.com"><span style="color:purple">tdennis@DataSourcePro.com</span></a>><br>
To: "Dana Tong" <<a href="mailto:Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">Dana_Tong@bridgepoint.com.au</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a>"
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Subject: [cisco-VoIP] Odd CUCM IP Phone Registration behavior during Migration<br>
Date: Sun, Jul 28, 2013 5:09 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Have you tried resetting one of the problematic 7940 pones to factory default and let it try to register?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US">cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dana Tong<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:37 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[cisco-voip] Odd CUCM IP Phone Registration behaviour during Migration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good morning all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Weird one tonight.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Customer has a CUCM version 7.1(5) with approx. 900 handsets of 7912’s, 7940’s etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So I built up a new CUCM version 9.1(1) on new UCS hardware (vmware) and everything looks fine. I cleaned up all the data an implemented some of the intelligent call routing features in newer CUCM etc. Tested with some brand new 7942’s
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tonight I get onsite to perform the migration. I start with the first site. ~110 phones. Update the DHCP option 150 and reset the phones.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now about 40 of the ~110 phones come across and register to the new CUCM ok. This leaves some 70 phones reporting configuring IP. The DHCP is on the router, and the router connected to the LAN via a dot1q trunk.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The registered phones are all of the 7912’s and some 7940’s.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Two of the phones close by are 7940’s. One is registered and one is not. They both have the same firmware. They are both on the same access switch. The unregistered phone does not have an IP address. However the router’s ARP and DHCP has
an IP address in its database. I cleared the ARP, and cleared the DHCP bindings. Restart the phone. I see the DHCP request in the debugs and an address get assigned but the phone still doesn’t get an IP.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So I manually set an IP address on the phone. It still won’t register. I set a continuous ping to the phone and I get maybe 2% ping response. With some response times up in the 190ms range. Weird. This is all LAN based. Check spanning tree
and that’s ok. The TAC have investigated and they are stumped. They ask me to log another fault for the switching guys. A PC behind the phone in the voice VLAN also has perfect pings to the new CUCM. So it seems phone related.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyways so I do some more troubleshooting. Roll back the DHCP option 150 and reset all the phones. They all re-register with the old cluster no problems.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I configure a new VLAN on the switches and new sub-interface on the router. Configure a new DHCP scope for the new range and configure this phone to use that new VLAN. At this point I haven’t added the new subnet to BGP to this subnet cannot
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<p class="MsoNormal">The phone comes up in the test VLAN and gets an IP address ok. I can ping the phone and have no loss.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I configure the BGP routing and now the new subnet is advertised into the network and I can reach the CUCM.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Immediately, the phone starts dropping pings and is showing the same sporadic response and packet loss.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I remove the subnet from BGP and now the phone is 100% responsive again. What the???<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So it seems there is an issue when the phone is trying to register to the new CUCM. I’ve just checked the old cluster and noticed that this system is running 7.1(5) UNRESTRICTED. So the last upgrade which was done for this customer, it
seems someone had installed the UNRESTRICTED version. Is this affecting my migration? The new cluster is a fresh build of UCM 9.1 straight on to new UCS hardware. So it’s a standard restricted ISO.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know that once you go UNRESTRICTED you cannot go back. However this was not an upgrade or backup/ restore. Remember this is a fresh build.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyways I’m stumped. Can you guys think of anything??? It seems to be related the 7940 series phones. We tried another site and all of the 7912’s migrated fine but the 7940’s didn’t. But then again there were “some” 7940’s in the HQ site
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