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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Even with 8.6, you’d have licensing changes. With 8.6, it is licensed based on subscription of users, not DLUs. Except the catch is that even though it is licensed
based on users, the software itself still uses DLUs. When you buy a user, you get a license file with a corresponding number of DLUs in it. Nobody at Cisco can tell you what that number is, and if you try to get any help related to your DLU counts, they’ll
just get confused and incorrectly tell you that you’re out to lunch because 8.6 doesn’t use DLUs and is licensed based on users. Totally asinine that it’s licensed based on one system, but the software itself enforces licenses based on a totally different
system. The licensing for 8.6 is a gongshow because the Cisco people only understand user-based, the software only understands DLU-based, and there’s no documentation reconciling the two.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With 9, even though you still have all the headache of changing licensing systems, at least you end up with only a single licensing system in the end. So there
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Based on past experience, Cisco will probably completely re-engineer all their licensing very soon anyway, since it’s almost getting to the point of being understandable,
which they seem to be against. :-\<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred Hunt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August-16-13 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); Stephen Welsh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Migrating from CUCM 7.1.3 to CUCM 8.6.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks Stephen and Ryan. I have attended some of the CUG webinars on upgrading to 9. I figured that I would avoid the licensing changes by only
going to 8.6.2. We are a small organization (under 300 users) and my primary motivation for upgrading is to remain on a supported version. I’ll read up more on moving to version 9 instead.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Fred<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) [<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">mailto:rratliff@cisco.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephen Welsh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Fred Hunt; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Migrating from CUCM 7.1.3 to CUCM 8.6.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">+1 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jump to 9.1(2) is where you want to be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-Ryan <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Aug 15, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Stephen Welsh <<a href="mailto:stephen.welsh@unifiedfx.com">stephen.welsh@unifiedfx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Fred,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Although you mention 8.6.2, Cisco have a big promotion called "Drive to 9” that you should take a close look at (if not already), in particular they have numerous upgrade options in particular some direct methods (jump)
and tools that can simplify the whole experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Have a look at the community page:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://communities.cisco.com/community/technology/collaboration/uc/migration">https://communities.cisco.com/community/technology/collaboration/uc/migration</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The following video gives you a good overview CUCM upgrade procedures:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djwErds_FDE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djwErds_FDE</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Also,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Cisco’s own Akhil Behl (author of <b>"Securing Cisco IP Telephony”</b>) and myself are hosting a series of webinars on Endpoint Security and Compliance. We shall be sharing some information that will relate to your upgrade,
so if you have the time register for the session(s), details below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.0pt;background:white"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">Enroll for Unified FX’s FREE Educational seminars on The Essentials of Endpoint Security & Compliance</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333"><br>
• Session 1: The Impact of Security by Default (5th Sept)<br>
• Session 2: Understanding and Managing ITL & CTL Files (12th Sept)<br>
• Session 3: Leading Practices for Endpoint Security & Compliance (19th Sept)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 15 Aug 2013, at 21:56, Fred Hunt <<a href="mailto:FHunt@erdman.com">FHunt@erdman.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I’m interested in migrating to CUCM 8.6.2 running on VMs considering that 7.1.x is getting closer to the end of support. I’ve been working to determine the
appropriate process to follow, but have a question that is not addressed in the documentation that I reviewed. Both of our current servers are model 7835-H2, which is only supported for use in a bridge upgrade, not for production use. The system requirements
for 8.6.x call for 4 GB RAM and 146 GB disks. Our servers currently have 2 GB RAM and 72 GB disks. Will I be able to use these servers for the bridge upgrade even though they don’t meet these requirements?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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