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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So I have a customer who has an early CUCM version (9.1.1.10000-11) and they have EM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They have CUWL standard licensing and the ELM is doubling up on UCL Enhanced licenses for devices and User Device Profiles.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The “Owner User ID” field is greyed out and cannot be selected. The procedure to update was to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/289688">https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/289688</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Logout the user<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Turn off EM on the device<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Set the Owner ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Turn on EM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Log the user back into the phone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Surely there’s a better way?!?! They have some 1300 logged in users at present.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As another test, I exported all phones of type x. Updated the “Owner User ID” in the CSV and re-inserted the phone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The field is updated but the license count is not reflected when I click the “Update Usage Details” on the license page within CUCM.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Does anyone else have a solution for fixing up this license calculation error in bulk?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dana
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 October 2013 12:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Smith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.x ELM and Owner ID<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The intelligence to consolidate users and licenses is still in CUCM. ELM just handles the distribution of licenses to clusters. This is why ELM can't tell you which users/devices are consuming which license, just how many. CUCM is still
where you have to look to see what license an individual user or device is consuming.
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Ryan <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:tim.smith@enject.com.au">tim.smith@enject.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah I've actually done this and poor ELM is confused now, but happily "compliant"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I still don't think it's great, it kind of kills the usefulness of ELM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think ELM needs to be a bit smarter in how it calculates and reconciles licensing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it should be primarily looking at users with device profiles and devices associated and working out lic that way (they would be active UC users)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Tim<br>
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On 10 Oct 2013, at 3:06 pm, "Nate VanMaren" <<a href="mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org">VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Remember a CUWL Standard user gets 10 devices per license. So you could just assign all of your phones to one user that would end up with N/10 CUWL standard
licenses. That would easy to maintain, and probably less expensive than public space + user profile…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I haven’t migrated any CUWL PRO to 9.x yet, so I am not sure what their device entitlement really is.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.x ELM and Owner ID</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">Thanks mate,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">I’m ok with the structure (well I think it still needs work – so hopefully product team will continue to improve it)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">In these scenario’s it’s usually 99% of the phones actually get logged into by 1 user (so they really do have a user and are not really public space) – it’s
just as the admins use EM, they don’t keep track and update the physical devices to reflect this (as you’d expect – most people use EM as a deployment / roll out tool (instead of TAPS) these days so they don’t need to worry about linking physical phones to
people)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">There were also some good threads on the partner communities about this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">I’m more interested now in working around what is there. I have a few ideas.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#3A3A3A">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">I have a bulk login script, which logs people in, at the same time I could put in an AXL update to update owner ID as I go. (There is still on-going maintenance issue though)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">A proxy type login service (new front end for EM, could also take care of this)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">Or one of the PC based login systems (it could also do the AXL update)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">Also, just trying out assigning phones to single user.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">I’ll do some more investigation!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">Thanks for your comments so far!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) [<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">mailto:rratliff@cisco.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Smith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Joe Martini (joemar2); <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.x ELM and Owner ID<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree, and unfortunately our current licensing model is structured such that the public space phones consume a license just as they would if they were the only phone associated to a user with no additional features.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:53 AM, Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:tim.smith@enject.com.au">tim.smith@enject.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Sorry to keep banging on about this, but I'm still a bit confused.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I definitely don't want to get more licensing than we are entitled to.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think from CUCM point of view, and based on below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Phones with owners associated, would get attributed in the right place, i.e. CUWL standard, pro etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In extension mobility environments, usually none of our phones have owners associated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So when we go to add CSF's for Jabber for instance, we come unstuck.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">Ryan
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 9 October 2013 1:41 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.x ELM and Owner ID</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">I recommend when looking at the User Count Tool or whatever tool you are using to do your license migration (before the upgrade) you should count your public space phones as
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">I understand Licensing is being very generous for current migrations however I would pay careful attention to what you ask for and what you get as compared to what you currently
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:tim.smith@enject.com.au">tim.smith@enject.com.au</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">Thanks Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">Does that mean we should ask licensing for a public space lic per em phone?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">We don't actually need to buy more licenses right?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 9 Oct 2013, at 1:09 am, "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">As soon as you add SNR or a soft client to those users you have to double up on licenses to account for the public space phones.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">Today that is the solution and when doing your DLU to ELM conversion you need to plan accordingly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#282828">On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:tim.smith@enject.com.au">tim.smith@enject.com.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">This is in regard to the physical phones not been allocated to a user. (i.e. assigning phones owner ID’s)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A3A3A">This seems to cause a double up for me when I create CSF profiles.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, 8 October 2013 10:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim Smith<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9.x ELM and Owner ID</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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