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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So given that </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have run vMware for 6 years in one form or another,
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have trialled DRS P2V on vMware and familiar with that.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We would be doing an upgrade rather than 1<sup>st</sup> deployment.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It sounds like BE6k offers no major advantages to me, buying a UCS220 or equivalent specification Dell server would do the job fine.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Will look at the readiness tools.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rob</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Tim Smith [mailto:tim.smith@enject.com.au]
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<b>Sent:</b> 22 October 2013 21:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Robin Clayton; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Migrating from CUCM 7.1 & Unity to BE6000</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Hey mate,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">The main benefit of BE6k is really the packaging and bundling (in my opinion)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">It has come a long way since the beginning, and the current 9.X version is quite cool.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">The good bits..</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">It’s really just CUCM, CUCXN, UCCX, IM&P (depending on the options you go for)</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">It’s all on tested ref config (with matching OVA’s) to make it easy to handle the VM part – i.e. it’s really easy to spec. It just removes all the hassle for anyone that is not overly familiar with
virtualization yet.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">You include VM licensing and support (so it’s all in the same price / package)</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">All the media is pre-loaded on the UCS data store for you (no messing with DVD’s, or downloads)</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">VMWare ESXi hypervisor is pre-installed for you</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">There is some great documentation that ties everything together, and gives you some good step by steps</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">They give you the provisioning products (this bridges the gap from when you had a special BE version of CUCM and CUCXN with tighter integration)</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">As I said before, they are really just the individual components you know and love bundled together, you don’t really need to know anything specific about BE6k as such</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Other cool apps – VCS starter bundle, paging etc</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">The bad</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Provisioning tools are not quite there yet for me. Hoping for improvements with 10. I think they are still too complicated for the target market</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">If you are in the US, you can do a fairly quick deployment with the provisioning tools, but outside US you would still need to customise, so I just configure the machines from scratch myself today</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Install could still be more streamlined with templates or something, I’m sure they will be working on this already</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">In your case for migration…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Most of these benefits, are probably more around going to BE6k for first time rather than coming from CUCM, but they still probably apply</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">I would be very surprised if you could not use the standard physical to virtual migration path in this case.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">i.e. build your virtual machines as mirror images of production environment, take DRS backup, restore to virtual environment (from 7 to 9 – this would be a jump upgrade)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">CUCM in 6k is the same as a full CUCM (same with the other products) – this is not the same as BE3k or BE5k which are different builds / products.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Unity Connection also allows you to install 7 on virtual for upgrade purposes, and them upgrade to 9 (the original jump upgrade!)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">If for some reason, you couldn’t go that route, you could look at BAT export / imports for CUCM, and COBRAS for Unity Cxn.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Hope that helps!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#3A3A3A">Tim</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robin Clayton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 23 October 2013 1:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Migrating from CUCM 7.1 & Unity to BE6000</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">CUCM 7.1.x</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Unity 7.1.x</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there a guide on migrating these to a BE6000 server retaining the configuration?
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<p class="MsoNormal">I looked but I could not find a guide.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there any advantage of the BE6000 over a UCS with CUCM and Unity installed on it?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The environment only require less than 200 phones.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rob</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Robin Clayton</p>
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