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EM phones are tagged as public space and consume a license at whatever tier a user with just that phone assigned would consume.
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<div>On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Louis Koekemoer (ZA) <<a href="mailto:louis.koekemoer@dimensiondata.com">louis.koekemoer@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ryan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In my case Im using EM. How do I decide which phone to associate to an end user?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Louis Koekemoer<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Principle Systems Engineer Converged Communications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Dimension Data Middle East & Africa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Tel: +27 (11) 575 6560<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">Planned Leave 30/11/2013 05/01/2014<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2013 08:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Ward (chrward)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Louis Koekemoer (ZA); cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ELM stay negative<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And remember that for licensing purposes you need to set the owner userid on the Device page. Device association from the User page isn't sufficient.
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Ryan <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Chris Ward (chrward) <<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com">chrward@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Louis,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">This is as I suspected
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">740 CUWL + 500 Enhanced = 1240 total</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">You need 1327 total Enhanced, so it is using the CUWL licenses to make up the difference: 1240 1327 = -87.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">You need to make sure that the devices are associated to users in the user page and then resynchronize licenses. I suspect you have lots of devices that arent associated and so CUCM is reporting
them as requiring an enhanced license. When multiple devices are associated to a user it will require just a single license rather than two like I think you are seeing.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Try associating a few users to their devices and then resynchronize ELM and see if the number drops. Focus on users that you know to own multiple devices.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">+Chris</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Ward (chrward); <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ELM stay negative</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Chris,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">See below? After doing an Update Usage details on CUCM under License Usage report and then re-syncing ELM, it dropped to -78</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Kind regards</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Louis Koekemoer</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Principle Systems Engineer Converged Communications</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Dimension Data Middle East & Africa</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6D6E71">Mobile: +27 (71) 680 8790</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">For more information about Dimension Data, please go to <a href="http://www.dimensiondata.com/" title="http://www.dimensiondata.com/">www.dimensiondata.com</a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2013 07:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Louis Koekemoer (ZA); <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ELM stay negative</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Can you send a screenshot of the License Usage page/report.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">ELM will use higher level licenses if lower ones are not available.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I.E. if you need 500 Enhanced users but only have 100 Enhanced User Licenses but also have 1,000 CUWL Standard Licenses, ELM will utilize 400 CUWL Standard Licenses to make up the difference. So
the negative report may be that you are substituting licenses.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Also, to make sure you are using the proper licenses, you need to be associating phones to users to ensure that CUCM is requesting the proper license type.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Louis Koekemoer (ZA)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] ELM stay negative<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I did an upgrade an upgrade recently for a customer for CUCM 8.x to 9.x. The license issued show -87 on the Enhanced (9.x) users on ELM. I deleted numerous un-used phones, User device profiles and end users. I re-synced a few times, removed
the CUCM and add it again and even restarted the ELM. The ELM count stay on -87. I have no idea how to reduce this total. Can anyone point me in a direction here what I could do?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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