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    Hi Dennis,<br>
    <br>
    I ran into a similar situation and ended up moving the backup from
    the RL to the RG.  For example, our Local Route Group is defined in
    the Device Pool (DP).  So DP SFO would point to RG_SFO.   RG_SFO
    would contain the primary destination for SFO and also a secondary
    location (in some cases we have more than two members in the RG). 
    Likewise DP NYC would point to RG_NYC which would contain the
    primary destination for NYC and any back up locations.  <br>
    <br>
    I believe that will allow you to keep just a single RP for \+! and
    your RL would look like RL_LocalCalls  and just have the  Standard
    Local Route Group as a member and uses the RG that is defined by the
    DP.   Not sure if this is the best way of doing it or what the exact
    implications are of moving the redundancy from the RL to the RG.<br>
    <br>
    --paul<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2013 5:45 AM, Heim, Dennis
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Has there been any thought of a Local Route
          List feature in addition or replacing the local route group
          option?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Here is my use case, if I am missing
          something, please let me know…<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Dial Plan is E.164. We have translation
          patterns that normalize the Called number. From there the
          calls match at \+.! Route pattern the sends the call to the
          gateway.  The route list assigned to that route pattern
          includes the following members: (1) Standard Local Route Group
          (2) HQ-PSTN-RG. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The use case is this, what happens when we
          have regional or different secondary destinations? If we had
          some sites in the western US, that if their local circuits
          were unavailable we wanted the calls to go through a San
          Francisco regional site (SFO-PSTN-RG). At the same time, we
          had some sites in the eastern US, that if their local circuits
          were available we wanted the call to go through a New York
          regional site (NYC-PSTN-RG).  <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">As it is with local route group’s, we would
          need to have multiple route pattern’s \+.! Placed in different
          partitions, and assigned a different route list. For our
          example we would have the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          Local Route Group<o:p></o:p></p>
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          Local Route Group<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">In order to feed the local route group’s,
          we would need  separate PSTN translation patterns (9.@), with
          separate partitions and calling search spaces to feed  the
          different \+.! Route pattern. Is that how others are handing
          this scenario? <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">If we had a local route list instead of
          local route group, then that could be specified on the device
          pool, and we could have one set of patterns and be able to
          easily manage multiple failure path’s.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis Heim |
              Solution Architect (Collaboration)</span></b><span
            style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">World
            Wide Technology, Inc. | 314-212-1814<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#00007F">PS
                Engineering: </span></i></b><i><span
              style="color:#00007F"> Innovate & Ignite.</span></i><span
            style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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