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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wanted to use the 10 core procs in the C-260.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I refuse to use a 1 RU server.  I had 14 of them die (HP, not Cisco) in a computer room.  I don’t feel like 1 RU gets enough air through them, or the Power
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So I used C210-M2 and then C240-M3 when the C210s went EOS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> matthn@gmail.com [mailto:matthn@gmail.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nate VanMaren<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Cisco VoIPoE List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco UCS vs Spec's based solution - evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">If it adds any color, the majority of all UC on UCS deployments are TRC. Of the specs based deployments (meaning any derivation from the TRC) the majority of those are UCS as well.  (This is an extrapolation
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">When I do see specs based, it's usually because there is no other option. When there's only one server at a facility/site, it's only for DR, it's hosted on specs based as a stop gap, etc. But that's just what
 I see in mid-sized businesses that I work with as well. Voice/collab is usually important enough that the support structure of TRC's supersedes server-politics battles, particularly since there's no significant cost advantage of third party hardware.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-nick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(disclosure: Cisco SE)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Nate VanMaren <<a href="mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org" target="_blank">VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All I have used is Cisco UCS specs based.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The biggest number one thing to worry about is DISK, everything else is easy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The 2<sup>nd</sup> is if an existing VM farm, getting the admins to actually not over subscribe CPUs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cisco VoIPoE List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco UCS vs Spec's based solution - evaluation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Sorry, that really should have read, Cisco TRC UCS vs Third party Spec's based solution. :(</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Data Centre and Communications Facilities<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"Lelio Fulgenzi" <</span><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">><br>
<b>To: </b>"Cisco VoIPoE List" <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:19:50 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[cisco-voip] Cisco UCS vs Spec's based solution - evaluation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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I've been asked to produce a short report, comparing the resources and support options of Cisco UCS vs Spec's based solution, i.e. an existing infrastructure.<br>
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There is a lot of information out there that I will be using, but I'm also interested in hearing from others who have produced a similar report.
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Also, if others are willing to share support issues that have cropped up which you had difficulty dealing with, that would be great too. I'd like to be able to include some real world examples.<br>
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Thanks, Lelio</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Data Centre and Communications Facilities<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
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</span><a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
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