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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 21 January 2014 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Smith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Jeremy Bresley<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">what? this is nuts. another name change after only one iteration, and now they're telling me i can't install it as a standalone box?
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As of Release 10.0(1),Cisco Prime License Manager replaces Enterprise License Manager.Cisco Prime License Manager provides simplified, enterprise-wide management of user-based licensing, including license fulfillment. Cisco Prime License Manager handles licensing
 fulfillment, supports allocation and reconciliation of licenses across supported products, and provides enterprise-level reporting of usage and entitlement.
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Important: Cisco Prime License Manager is not installable as a standalone option from the Unified Communications operating system ISO. Co-resident installation from the Unified Communications operating system ISO is still an option.
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You have the ability to define how to manage licensing of your enterprise. You can have one Cisco Prime License Manager for the entire enterprise, or you can have several Cisco Prime License Managers and divide the enterprise in a manner that best suits your
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
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519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">4120
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<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:
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<b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "Jeremy Bresley" <<a href="mailto:brez@brezworks.com" target="_blank">brez@brezworks.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, January 20, 2014 6:05:05 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hey guys,</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The release notes, whats new etc are posted on CCO now.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s all here -
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/docguide/10_0_1/CUCM_BK_C08E97F6_00_cucm-doc-guide-1001.html" target="_blank">
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/docguide/10_0_1/CUCM_BK_C08E97F6_00_cucm-doc-guide-1001.html</a></span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My favourites..</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">CSS Inheritance for translation patterns – handy for tidying up the dial plan</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature group template support for user synced from directory – automatically set some config to users as they are imported</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Plug and play – auto config of auto reg phones (including IVR)</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Universal line templates</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I love all the automatic provisioning stuff, I think this is where it is at.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Self-care is alright, but I think the initial config should just be automatic</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">On the .0 stuff..</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Even minor changes make room for bugs and issues. I wouldn’t necessarily avoid the .0 release all together. But I’d give it a few
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Although for BE6k, and small greenfield sites, I think some of the new features might make it worth the risk.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I got caught out with two deferrals for CWMS 1.5 MR1 and MR2 recently. They were just maintenance releases.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeremy Bresley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks Jeremy!<br>
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Lelio</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
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519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">4120
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<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:
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<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, January 20, 2014 1:42:23 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On 1/20/2014 9:22 AM, Stephen Welsh wrote:</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I believe the provisioning improvement you are referring too is the ability for end users to ‘self-provision’. My understanding it enables end users to setup a fresh phone on
 their desk as part of an initial deployment etc. basically a replacement for TAPS. They login to their phone using their UCM User details (aka AD user if integrated) and a pre-loaded profile is deployed to the phone.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">ASAIK it’s a phone firmware level feature that as long as the phone is on the desired software level it uses the new User Data Service (UDS) API to authenticate and configure
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Personally I’m keen to see how this feature is implemented, i.e. will the user have to login twice if extension mobility is enabled ;)</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Kind Regards.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">The provisioning improvement in 10.0 is a single-cluster version of Cisco Prime Collaboration Provisioning.<br>
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<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/prod/collateral/netmgtsw/ps6491/ps12363/data_sheet_c78-729645.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/prod/collateral/netmgtsw/ps6491/ps12363/data_sheet_c78-729645.html</a><br>
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We're still in the roll-out stages of the stand-alone product, and are looking at it more for allowing remote IT people to be able to provision and do MACD work on phones without having to have CUCM/UConn expertise.  Not sure what features are missing between
 the full-blown product and the integrated one in 10.0 however.  One of the weekly Cisco Prime Demo's covered it a few weeks ago. 
<a href="http://bit.ly/PrimeDemo" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/PrimeDemo</a>  probably would be a good place to attend and ask questions about it.<br>
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Jeremy "TheBrez" Bresley<br>
<a href="mailto:brez@brezworks.com" target="_blank">brez@brezworks.com</a><br>
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