<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'><br>Thanks Brian. <br><br>I can't see CSCsu59755, but CSCsr91903 looks interesting. It's quite a bit different than the documentation, saying to actually reboot the pub before restoring the sub, and to restore the sub via CLI tools.<br><br>I followed the TAC's recommendation, restoring the pub first, then the sub, then followed the documentation and rebooted the sub first, then the pub.<br><br>Now I gots a replication status of "3" on the pub and "2" on the sub.<br><br>Will have to google-foo this and see what I can find, or work with the TAC.<br><br>Not excited about this...<br><br>Lelio<br><br><div><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>University of Guelph<br><br>519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354<br>lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<br>Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Brian Meade (brmeade)" <brmeade@cisco.com><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "cisco-voip" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:13:04 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [cisco-voip] conflicting directions: DRS manual vs DRS GUI<br><br>



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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lelio,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That warning message on the DRS webpage was added back in 6.x. as part of</span>
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">CSCsu59755.  It looks like there were a lot of replication problems when restoring all the nodes at once so their fix was just to add that message of restoring the publisher first. 
 It looks like the bug mentions it should be fixed as part of CSCsr91903 but the warning message was never removed (it’s unclear if it’s still needed).  I’d say it would probably be best practice to restore the publisher first in this scenario as it will probably
 eliminate a lot of potential issues.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] conflicting directions: DRS manual vs DRS GUI</span></p>
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According to the TAC (629123121), the publisher must always be restored first. They at first mentioned it was because of the hardware differences, but later, after consulting with their lead, they mentioned, it's always the case.
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I've asked them to investigate why the document has never been updated and/or to update the document accordingly.<br>
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Not sure if this is one of those times where the TAC's best practices conflicts with what the document says, or even if there is any chance of having the document updated, but it's very confusing.<br>
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Onward we shall go....<br>
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Lelio<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
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519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">4120
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<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1</span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"cisco-voip" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, February 10, 2014 4:40:44 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>conflicting directions: DRS manual vs DRS GUI</span></p>
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I'm at the point in our migration to v9 test where I am about to restore my cluster after applying the refresh COP file.<br>
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The <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/drs/7_1_2/drsag712.pdf" target="_blank">
documentation</a> states, in more than one spot, that I can restore the cluster at once, without having to do the publisher first:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">You can restore the whole cluster as a single operation after you rebuild the publisher server and the subscriber servers, or to revert to a known good configuration. You do not need to restore
 the first node and the subsequent nodes in two separate operations. [Page 14]</span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">When you get prompted to choose the nodes to restore, choose all the nodes in the cluster. [Page 15, Step 11]</span></li></ul>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">However, when I run the utility, there is a warning at the top, which states:
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">If you are attempting to restore on a freshly installed publisher, only select the first node (Publisher) for restore. The subsequent nodes can be selected only after the completion of publisher
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">The latest documentation is for v7.1(2), but I'm currently running v7.1(5b)SU3, so I'm wondering if the warning in the code supersedes the document.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Anyone care to comment?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Lelio</span></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
<br>
519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">4120
 Ext 56354<br>
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1</span></p>
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