<div dir="ltr">The phone console logs and the alternate syslog in RTMT should both have this info. For the phone console logs, they may have been overwritten though as the logs rotate through pretty quickly. The actual message in the console log will vary based on the cause of the problem as well as the phone model/firmware.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Dharambir kumar varma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dharambirku@gmail.com" target="_blank">dharambirku@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Brian,</div><div> </div><div>I took CUCM trace and checked no affected Cisco phone mac add was there on logs. but on cisco SRST mpls router, we found the all MAC address for affected cisco phone as registered and unregistered.</div><div> </div><div>Can we check on phone console log if yes then what it will display message on console log of phone.</div><div> </div><div>Dharambir<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Brian Meade <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr">You can pull the CallManager traces. You can also use RTMT's syslog viewer tool to look at the alternate syslog of each node and search for the phone that unregistered to see what reason it unregistered.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Dharambir kumar varma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dharambirku@gmail.com" target="_blank">dharambirku@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div>Hi,</div><div> </div><div>I have one problem......</div><div> </div><div>At one location, all cisco phone are going register/ unregister in couple hours.</div><div>Local Gateway is as MGCP with SRST.</div><div> </div><div>where can i check logs whicn confirm me this register/Unregister message.</div><div> </div><div>In RTMT tool i did not find. Culd u please help me on this.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Thanks in advance!!</div><div> </div><div>Dharam<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:30 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-request@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-request@puck.nether.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">Send cisco-voip mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Scott Voll)<br>
2. Callmanager TomCat (Jason Aarons (AM))<br>
3. Re: Callmanager TomCat (Josh Warcop)<br>
4. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Anthony Holloway)<br>
5. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Ryan Ratliff (rratliff))<br>
6. Re: Callmanager TomCat (Ryan Ratliff (rratliff))<br>
7. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Scott Voll)<br>
8. Re: Callmanager TomCat (Chris Ward (chrward))<br>
9. Re: Callmanager TomCat (Josh Warcop)<br>
10. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Anthony Holloway)<br>
11. Re: Callmanager TomCat (Jason Aarons (AM))<br>
12. DirSync Not Generating Logs? (Matthew Loraditch)<br>
13. any CCW users out there? how do i delete an estimate?<br>
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14. Re: DirSync Not Generating Logs? (Jason Aarons (AM))<br>
15. Re: DirSync Not Generating Logs? (Matthew Loraditch)<br>
16. Re: any CCW users out there? how do i delete an estimate?<br>
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17. Re: BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue (Mike )<br>
18. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Erick Wellnitz)<br>
19. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Wes Sisk (wsisk))<br>
20. Re: BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue (Josh Warcop)<br>
21. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Josh Warcop)<br>
22. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Brian Meade)<br>
23. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Erick Wellnitz)<br>
24. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Josh Warcop)<br>
25. Any experience with services for updating the LIDB?<br>
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31. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (MManly@TEP.com)<br>
32. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Erick Wellnitz)<br>
33. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Ryan Ratliff (rratliff))<br>
34. Re: Remove lines on phones with BAT (Scott Voll)<br>
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37. LDAP search in Jabber for Windows 10.5 (Jason Aarons (AM))<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:20:25 -0700<br>
From: Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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no they are all 7961 running SCCP<br>
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Scott<br>
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
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> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
><br>
> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
> all the phones<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
> CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:46:43 +0000<br>
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Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
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Customer is asking if they can leave CallManager > CCMAdmin > Server > IP address and change the Tomcat Certificate to IP Address for Jabber for Windows client to be happy and not prompt an error first time opening? Can you even do that in CUCM? So keep the ip address as the Subject Alternate Name?<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:56:13 -0400<br>
From: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
To: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>>, "cisco-voip<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
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Not recommended approach. SSL future guidelines dictates that non approved TLDs in SAN names will no longer be supported. IP address and short names in SANs is a bandaid. The proper way to to change the server name setting to the FQDN and ensure every device is getting proper DNS suffix and DNS servers.<br>
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The second problem is that Jabber doesn't just look at the tomcat. It also checks callmanager.pen which should also be signed by a valid CA using valid subject and alternate names.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Jason Aarons (AM)<mailto:<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
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Customer is asking if they can leave CallManager > CCMAdmin > Server > IP address and change the Tomcat Certificate to IP Address for Jabber for Windows client to be happy and not prompt an error first time opening? Can you even do that in CUCM? So keep the ip address as the Subject Alternate Name?<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:05:36 -0500<br>
From: Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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Scott,<br>
<br>
SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying<br>
about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911.<br>
<br>
Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations:<br>
Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><br>
> wrote:<br>
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> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
><br>
> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
> all the phones<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
> CM 8.6.2<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:11:41 +0000<br>
From: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
To: Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:592790E7-D9DD-4F6F-9773-9D455791F328@cisco.com" target="_blank">592790E7-D9DD-4F6F-9773-9D455791F328@cisco.com</a>><br>
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Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Scott,<br>
<br>
SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911.<br>
<br>
Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
<br>
we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on all the phones<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:13:44 +0000<br>
From: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
To: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
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It's not only not recommended but UCM won't put an IP address in cert subject or SAN.<br>
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For Jabber it's a matter of getting signed certs, getting the certs loaded onto the PC, and fixing System->Server values so UDS doesn't screw up things by giving IPs to the client (this may be only a concern with MRA).<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
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On Oct 29, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Not recommended approach. SSL future guidelines dictates that non approved TLDs in SAN names will no longer be supported. IP address and short names in SANs is a bandaid. The proper way to to change the server name setting to the FQDN and ensure every device is getting proper DNS suffix and DNS servers.<br>
<br>
The second problem is that Jabber doesn't just look at the tomcat. It also checks callmanager.pen which should also be signed by a valid CA using valid subject and alternate names.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Jason Aarons (AM)<mailto:<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 1:50 PM<br>
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Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
<br>
<br>
Customer is asking if they can leave CallManager > CCMAdmin > Server > IP address and change the Tomcat Certificate to IP Address for Jabber for Windows client to be happy and not prompt an error first time opening? Can you even do that in CUCM? So keep the ip address as the Subject Alternate Name?<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:33:33 -0700<br>
From: Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment? Burning<br>
two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Scott,<br>
><br>
> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
> of 911.<br>
><br>
> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>><br>
>> -Ryan<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>><br>
>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
>> all the phones<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> scott<br>
>><br>
>> CM 8.6.2<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
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>><br>
>><br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:40:17 +0000<br>
From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>><br>
To: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>>, "cisco-voip<br>
(<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:C3D1FCA271936B48839E081F898E17AA15ED08F7@xmb-rcd-x13.cisco.com" target="_blank">C3D1FCA271936B48839E081F898E17AA15ED08F7@xmb-rcd-x13.cisco.com</a>><br>
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IP/Hostname isn't the issue. It's the self-signed certificate that CUCM/IMP is using.<br>
<br>
The fix is either to get a cert signed by a publicly trusted cert authority like GoDaddy or Verisign OR you need a CA on the local network (AD) that the Windows system trusts (has the root cert loaded) and use that to generate a new cert for CUCM.<br>
<br>
The latter is free except for time and allows a little more flexibility.<br>
<br>
+Chris<br>
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection<br>
<br>
From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (AM)<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:47 PM<br>
To: cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
<br>
Customer is asking if they can leave CallManager > CCMAdmin > Server > IP address and change the Tomcat Certificate to IP Address for Jabber for Windows client to be happy and not prompt an error first time opening? Can you even do that in CUCM? So keep the ip address as the Subject Alternate Name?<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:01:46 -0400<br>
From: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
To: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>>, "Jason Aarons (AM)"<br>
<<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>>, "cisco-voip<br>
(<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
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3rd party CA signed is important for an actual BYOD strategy so you're not doing certificate deployment to non-corporate devices. Granted it costs a bit more but the I rather pay that vs. Managing an internal CA properly.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Chris Ward (chrward)<mailto:<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 2:43 PM<br>
To: Jason Aarons (AM)<mailto:<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>>; cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)<mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
<br>
IP/Hostname isn't the issue. It's the self-signed certificate that CUCM/IMP is using.<br>
<br>
The fix is either to get a cert signed by a publicly trusted cert authority like GoDaddy or Verisign OR you need a CA on the local network (AD) that the Windows system trusts (has the root cert loaded) and use that to generate a new cert for CUCM.<br>
<br>
The latter is free except for time and allows a little more flexibility.<br>
<br>
+Chris<br>
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection<br>
<br>
From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (AM)<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:47 PM<br>
To: cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
<br>
Customer is asking if they can leave CallManager > CCMAdmin > Server > IP address and change the Tomcat Certificate to IP Address for Jabber for Windows client to be happy and not prompt an error first time opening? Can you even do that in CUCM? So keep the ip address as the Subject Alternate Name?<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:03:14 -0500<br>
From: Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CACRCJOjfH05nQUnib85ab8x3Pg0UgB2vR3O3VD_qSC_qbRD=-<a href="mailto:w@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">w@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of<br>
the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
>> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
>><br>
>> -Ryan<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Scott,<br>
>><br>
>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>> of 911.<br>
>><br>
>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Ryan<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>><br>
>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
>>> all the phones<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks<br>
>>><br>
>>> scott<br>
>>><br>
>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:31:22 +0000<br>
From: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
To: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>>, "cisco-voip<br>
(<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<2EB6888CFB98614EA7384BEB9AF8B382113643@usispsvexdb03.na.didata.local><br>
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Tomcat was signed by Enterprise Root that clients have. The Jabber 10.5 with cisco_uds you must be FQDN under CCMAdmin > System > Server for everything, all.<br>
<br>
From: Chris Ward (chrward) [mailto:<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>] CCM<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:40 PM<br>
To: Jason Aarons (AM); cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)<br>
Subject: RE: Callmanager TomCat<br>
<br>
IP/Hostname isn't the issue. It's the self-signed certificate that CUCM/IMP is using.<br>
<br>
The fix is either to get a cert signed by a publicly trusted cert authority like GoDaddy or Verisign OR you need a CA on the local network (AD) that the Windows system trusts (has the root cert loaded) and use that to generate a new cert for CUCM.<br>
<br>
The latter is free except for time and allows a little more flexibility.<br>
<br>
+Chris<br>
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection<br>
<br>
From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (AM)<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:47 PM<br>
To: cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>>)<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager TomCat<br>
<br>
Customer is asking if they can leave CallManager > CCMAdmin > Server > IP address and change the Tomcat Certificate to IP Address for Jabber for Windows client to be happy and not prompt an error first time opening? Can you even do that in CUCM? So keep the ip address as the Subject Alternate Name?<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:43:12 +0000<br>
From: Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] DirSync Not Generating Logs?<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<C75AF2AD9308C246AFBDDB994E3E29832F0F7DF1@PHANES.helion.local><br>
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Unity Connection 10.5SU1, trying to enable LDAP sync.. not working, no logs for DirSync service, DirSync is activated and running.. just not doing anything..<br>
Any hints on another log I can look at or am I calling TAC?<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
<br>
direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
fax. <a href="tel:410.252.9284" value="+14102529284" target="_blank">410.252.9284</a><br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:55:43 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
To: cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] any CCW users out there? how do i delete an<br>
estimate?<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:72624639.829308.1414612543110.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">72624639.829308.1414612543110.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
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For the life of me, I can't figure out how to delete an estimate in CCW.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
<br>
519?824?4120 Ext 56354<br>
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:04:25 +0000<br>
From: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
To: Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DirSync Not Generating Logs?<br>
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Utils network capture do you see traffic to ldap server?<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:43 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] DirSync Not Generating Logs?<br>
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Unity Connection 10.5SU1, trying to enable LDAP sync.. not working, no logs for DirSync service, DirSync is activated and running.. just not doing anything..<br>
Any hints on another log I can look at or am I calling TAC?<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
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direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:07:53 +0000<br>
From: Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
To: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DirSync Not Generating Logs?<br>
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Yes, that occurred to me about 2 minutes after I sent this? DOH, my custom filter is not working? argh.<br>
Thanks!<br>
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Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
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direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
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From: Jason Aarons (AM) [mailto:<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:04 PM<br>
To: Matthew Loraditch; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: DirSync Not Generating Logs?<br>
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Utils network capture do you see traffic to ldap server?<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:43 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] DirSync Not Generating Logs?<br>
<br>
<br>
Unity Connection 10.5SU1, trying to enable LDAP sync.. not working, no logs for DirSync service, DirSync is activated and running.. just not doing anything..<br>
Any hints on another log I can look at or am I calling TAC?<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
<br>
direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
fax. <a href="tel:410.252.9284" value="+14102529284" target="_blank">410.252.9284</a><br>
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Message: 16<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:11:10 +0000<br>
From: Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, cisco-voip voyp list<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] any CCW users out there? how do i delete an<br>
estimate?<br>
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Yeah I don?t think you can.. I don?t use them but I use ccw all the time and what I see for deals, orders, etc I don?t see here for estimates.<br>
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Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
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direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
fax. <a href="tel:410.252.9284" value="+14102529284" target="_blank">410.252.9284</a><br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:56 PM<br>
To: cisco-voip voyp list<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] any CCW users out there? how do i delete an estimate?<br>
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For the life of me, I can't figure out how to delete an estimate in CCW.<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<br>
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519?824?4120 Ext 56354<br>
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<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a>><br>
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Message: 17<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:18:43 -0400<br>
From: "Mike " <<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>><br>
To: "'Mike '" <<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>>, "'Josh Warcop'" <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>>,<br>
"'Ryan Ratliff \(rratliff\)'" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list' <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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Well I finally have my licenses issued under UCSS.<br>
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Why does it have to be such a process to get entitlement?<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mike<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:04 AM<br>
To: 'Josh Warcop'; 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)'<br>
Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list'<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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It?s the run around you get from GLO. The BE6k migration guide clearly states if you are on BE5K and have valid UCSS you are entitled to BE6K licenses at no-cost.<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Josh Warcop<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:41 AM<br>
To: Mike ; 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)'<br>
Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list'<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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It all works fairly well IMO. Are you running pre license checks? AKA license migration utility?<br>
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Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
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From: Mike <mailto:<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?20/?2014 10:23 AM<br>
To: 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)' <mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
Cc: 'Josh Warcop' <mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>> ; 'cisco-voip voyp list' <mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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Ryan,<br>
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I did exactly that. The customer (car dealer) had 3 sites. One completely new ordered BE6K bundle. Second had CUCM/UCN 7.x with no UCSS we ordered BE6K bundle with 25 UCL promo then did a get current promo for the rest of the licenses and the 3rd site which is the site in question had valid UCSS on a BE5K and ordered the BE6K-ST-BDL-K9= which had everything pre-installed.<br>
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The migration is complete and we are just waiting to get the licenses owed to them.<br>
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I have to do a BE6K 8.6 to 9.1.2 upgrade next week and I know it?s going to be a nightmare getting those licenses issued(valid UCSS).<br>
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Cisco needs to stream line this issue because its not working for guys in the field. I start with Cisco in 2 weeks building collab labs and will be working with the BU and maybe I?ll let them know about the frustrations.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Mike<br>
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From: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) [mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:12 AM<br>
To: Mike<br>
Cc: Josh Warcop; cisco-voip voyp list<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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While on the topic and since you mentioned ordering the UCS. Please make sure when ordering BE6Ks for customers that you follow the ordering guide and use the correct top-level BE6K SKU (eg BE6K-ST-BDL-K9=).<br>
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I've had a few escalations for folks that ordered UCSC-C220-M3SBE= (the BE6K spare) and blow up when it doesn't come with any software pre-installed.<br>
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-Ryan<br>
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On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Mike <<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I did verify UCSS and even have the email from the UCSS team. I was able to order the software and the customer ordered the UCS C-220. The migration is done we are now up against the clock waiting for the licenses.<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Josh Warcop<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:06 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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First email <a href="mailto:ucss-support@external.cisco.com" target="_blank">ucss-support@external.cisco.com</a> with your UCSS and ESW contract numbers to see if it was ever set up correctly. Ask about association and license verification. Once cleared there you should be able to use the PUT tool to create an order for upgrade licensing based on your ESW number.<br>
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The next course of action with the licensing team is to request being sent to the upgrades team or the on duty manager. There is a whole separate team for upgrades once reached via <a href="mailto:mp-upgrades@cisco.com" target="_blank">mp-upgrades@cisco.com</a>.<br>
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In all correspondence include the UCSS PAK, the ESW contract, and the Cisco SO number. The Cisco SO number is your golden ticket.<br>
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Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
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_____<br>
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From: Mike <mailto:<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?20/?2014 8:52 AM<br>
To: 'Matthew Loraditch' <mailto:<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> ; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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I have a valid UCSS contract for 100 BE5K licenses. I know the first level guys are contractors, but it?s like he didn?t even read my case notes and just closed it.<br>
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From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:45 AM<br>
To: Mike ; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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<br>
<br>
I have not had any problem with this. What exactly do you have license wise?<br>
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Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
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1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
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direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
fax. <a href="tel:410.252.9284" value="+14102529284" target="_blank">410.252.9284</a><br>
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Support Phone. <a href="tel:410.252.8830" value="+14102528830" target="_blank">410.252.8830</a><br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mike<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:24 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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I see quite a few partners on this list and I?m wondering how many have had trouble getting licenses from Cisco licensing when you had a valid UCSSS contract?<br>
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I?ve opened 2 cases and put in the customers valid UCSS contract and they are immediately closed with the same verbiage ?contact your reseller to purchase the upgrade?<br>
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Any ideas?<br>
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Message: 18<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:13:27 -0600<br>
From: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if<br>
someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged<br>
out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take<br>
that for what you will.<br>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of<br>
> the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>><br>
>> scott<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
>>> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Ryan<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Scott,<br>
>>><br>
>>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>>> of 911.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
>>>> all the phones<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> scott<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
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From: "Wes Sisk (wsisk)" <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>><br>
To: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>, Scott Voll<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
<br>
Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID. Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
<br>
-Wes<br>
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On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment? Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Scott,<br>
<br>
SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911.<br>
<br>
Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
<br>
we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on all the phones<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:35:48 -0400<br>
From: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
To: "Mike " <<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>>, "'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)'"<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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My first email always states to forward immediately to migration support because first level has no access to 90% of what I'm usually doing.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Mike <mailto:<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 4:19 PM<br>
To: 'Mike '<mailto:<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>>; 'Josh Warcop'<mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>>; 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)'<mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list'<mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
Well I finally have my licenses issued under UCSS.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Why does it have to be such a process to get entitlement?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mike<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:04 AM<br>
To: 'Josh Warcop'; 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)'<br>
Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list'<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
It?s the run around you get from GLO. The BE6k migration guide clearly states if you are on BE5K and have valid UCSS you are entitled to BE6K licenses at no-cost.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Josh Warcop<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:41 AM<br>
To: Mike ; 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)'<br>
Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list'<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
It all works fairly well IMO. Are you running pre license checks? AKA license migration utility?<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
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_____<br>
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From: Mike <mailto:<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?20/?2014 10:23 AM<br>
To: 'Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)' <mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
Cc: 'Josh Warcop' <mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>> ; 'cisco-voip voyp list' <mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
Ryan,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I did exactly that. The customer (car dealer) had 3 sites. One completely new ordered BE6K bundle. Second had CUCM/UCN 7.x with no UCSS we ordered BE6K bundle with 25 UCL promo then did a get current promo for the rest of the licenses and the 3rd site which is the site in question had valid UCSS on a BE5K and ordered the BE6K-ST-BDL-K9= which had everything pre-installed.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The migration is complete and we are just waiting to get the licenses owed to them.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have to do a BE6K 8.6 to 9.1.2 upgrade next week and I know it?s going to be a nightmare getting those licenses issued(valid UCSS).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cisco needs to stream line this issue because its not working for guys in the field. I start with Cisco in 2 weeks building collab labs and will be working with the BU and maybe I?ll let them know about the frustrations.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) [mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:12 AM<br>
To: Mike<br>
Cc: Josh Warcop; cisco-voip voyp list<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
While on the topic and since you mentioned ordering the UCS. Please make sure when ordering BE6Ks for customers that you follow the ordering guide and use the correct top-level BE6K SKU (eg BE6K-ST-BDL-K9=).<br>
<br>
I've had a few escalations for folks that ordered UCSC-C220-M3SBE= (the BE6K spare) and blow up when it doesn't come with any software pre-installed.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Mike <<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I did verify UCSS and even have the email from the UCSS team. I was able to order the software and the customer ordered the UCS C-220. The migration is done we are now up against the clock waiting for the licenses.<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Josh Warcop<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:06 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
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<br>
<br>
First email <a href="mailto:ucss-support@external.cisco.com" target="_blank">ucss-support@external.cisco.com</a> with your UCSS and ESW contract numbers to see if it was ever set up correctly. Ask about association and license verification. Once cleared there you should be able to use the PUT tool to create an order for upgrade licensing based on your ESW number.<br>
<br>
The next course of action with the licensing team is to request being sent to the upgrades team or the on duty manager. There is a whole separate team for upgrades once reached via <a href="mailto:mp-upgrades@cisco.com" target="_blank">mp-upgrades@cisco.com</a>.<br>
<br>
In all correspondence include the UCSS PAK, the ESW contract, and the Cisco SO number. The Cisco SO number is your golden ticket.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
<br>
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From: Mike <mailto:<a href="mailto:mikeeo@msn.com" target="_blank">mikeeo@msn.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?20/?2014 8:52 AM<br>
To: 'Matthew Loraditch' <mailto:<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> ; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
I have a valid UCSS contract for 100 BE5K licenses. I know the first level guys are contractors, but it?s like he didn?t even read my case notes and just closed it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:45 AM<br>
To: Mike ; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have not had any problem with this. What exactly do you have license wise?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mike<br>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:24 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] BE5K to BE6K license with valid UCSS issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I see quite a few partners on this list and I?m wondering how many have had trouble getting licenses from Cisco licensing when you had a valid UCSSS contract?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I?ve opened 2 cases and put in the customers valid UCSS contract and they are immediately closed with the same verbiage ?contact your reseller to purchase the upgrade?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Any ideas?<br>
<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:40:42 -0400<br>
From: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
To: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>, Anthony Holloway<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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Negative. A corporation is not required to offer 911 services to the internal PBX connected phones. The business pays the 911 access fees via their bill but that doesn't have to translate to an internally built system. The ACTUAL problem is that in states with E911 legislation is you'll get a very very very hefty bill from emergency services if they dispatch and you didn't tell them what building, floor, aisle, and cube they should respond to. Legally is one thing but it quickly becomes if you want to pay that fine for NOT having E911. If you don't have emergency responder be prepared to add it soon as many states are adding more E911 laws.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Erick Wellnitz<mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 4:47 PM<br>
To: Anthony Holloway<mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
<br>
Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if<br>
someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged<br>
out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take<br>
that for what you will.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of<br>
> the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>><br>
>> scott<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
>>> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Ryan<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Scott,<br>
>>><br>
>>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>>> of 911.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
>>>> all the phones<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> scott<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
>>>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>>>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
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>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:17:22 -0400<br>
From: Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>><br>
To: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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That's dangerous info to pass around without being a lawyer. The law is<br>
going to vary state by state about whether all phones have to be able to<br>
dial 911. And legislation is constantly changing. Right now, there's<br>
Kari's law going around trying to get passed which will force everyone to<br>
not require any sort of access code to dial 911-<br>
<a href="http://www.change.org/p/let-hotel-phones-dial-911-easily-help-enact-kari-s-law" target="_blank">http://www.change.org/p/let-hotel-phones-dial-911-easily-help-enact-kari-s-law</a><br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Negative. A corporation is not required to offer 911 services to the<br>
> internal PBX connected phones. The business pays the 911 access fees via<br>
> their bill but that doesn't have to translate to an internally built<br>
> system. The ACTUAL problem is that in states with E911 legislation is<br>
> you'll get a very very very hefty bill from emergency services if they<br>
> dispatch and you didn't tell them what building, floor, aisle, and cube<br>
> they should respond to. Legally is one thing but it quickly becomes if you<br>
> want to pay that fine for NOT having E911. If you don't have emergency<br>
> responder be prepared to add it soon as many states are adding more E911<br>
> laws.<br>
><br>
> Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> From: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 4:47 PM<br>
> To: Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
><br>
> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of<br>
> the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Scott,<br>
><br>
> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
> of 911.<br>
><br>
> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
><br>
> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
> all the phones<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
> CM 8.6.2<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:31:27 -0600<br>
From: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>><br>
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The FCC is also looking at the possibility of regulating this. I'd be<br>
very, very wary of not providing emergency services in some way, shape or<br>
form. Even if it is to a security desk who then places the call.<br>
<br>
Personally, I don't want any of my clients to be the next one in the news<br>
because someone can't call for help.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> That's dangerous info to pass around without being a lawyer. The law is<br>
> going to vary state by state about whether all phones have to be able to<br>
> dial 911. And legislation is constantly changing. Right now, there's<br>
> Kari's law going around trying to get passed which will force everyone to<br>
> not require any sort of access code to dial 911-<br>
> <a href="http://www.change.org/p/let-hotel-phones-dial-911-easily-help-enact-kari-s-law" target="_blank">http://www.change.org/p/let-hotel-phones-dial-911-easily-help-enact-kari-s-law</a><br>
><br>
> Brian<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Negative. A corporation is not required to offer 911 services to the<br>
>> internal PBX connected phones. The business pays the 911 access fees via<br>
>> their bill but that doesn't have to translate to an internally built<br>
>> system. The ACTUAL problem is that in states with E911 legislation is<br>
>> you'll get a very very very hefty bill from emergency services if they<br>
>> dispatch and you didn't tell them what building, floor, aisle, and cube<br>
>> they should respond to. Legally is one thing but it quickly becomes if you<br>
>> want to pay that fine for NOT having E911. If you don't have emergency<br>
>> responder be prepared to add it soon as many states are adding more E911<br>
>> laws.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> From: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 4:47 PM<br>
>> To: Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
>><br>
>> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
>> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
>> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
>> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state<br>
>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>><br>
>> scott<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
>> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
>><br>
>> -Ryan<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Scott,<br>
>><br>
>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>> of 911.<br>
>><br>
>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>><br>
>> -Ryan<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>><br>
>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
>> all the phones<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> scott<br>
>><br>
>> CM 8.6.2<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
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>><br>
>><br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:34:29 -0400<br>
From: Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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Even with that info I haven't seen a business elect to not provide 911. The legality question was raised and a business generally isn't going to be taken to court for failing to have 911 immediately accessible on their corporate provided phones. What I am seeing is an upcoming wave of folks that do not have E911. The immediate counter argument is people have mobile phones.<br>
<br>
I work with law firms and they've done all the research for me.<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Brian Meade<mailto:<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>><br>
Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 6:17 PM<br>
To: Josh Warcop<mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>><br>
Cc: Erick Wellnitz<mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>; Anthony Holloway<mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>; cisco-voip voyp list<mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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That's dangerous info to pass around without being a lawyer. The law is<br>
going to vary state by state about whether all phones have to be able to<br>
dial 911. And legislation is constantly changing. Right now, there's<br>
Kari's law going around trying to get passed which will force everyone to<br>
not require any sort of access code to dial 911-<br>
<a href="http://www.change.org/p/let-hotel-phones-dial-911-easily-help-enact-kari-s-law" target="_blank">http://www.change.org/p/let-hotel-phones-dial-911-easily-help-enact-kari-s-law</a><br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Josh Warcop <<a href="mailto:josh@warcop.com" target="_blank">josh@warcop.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Negative. A corporation is not required to offer 911 services to the<br>
> internal PBX connected phones. The business pays the 911 access fees via<br>
> their bill but that doesn't have to translate to an internally built<br>
> system. The ACTUAL problem is that in states with E911 legislation is<br>
> you'll get a very very very hefty bill from emergency services if they<br>
> dispatch and you didn't tell them what building, floor, aisle, and cube<br>
> they should respond to. Legally is one thing but it quickly becomes if you<br>
> want to pay that fine for NOT having E911. If you don't have emergency<br>
> responder be prepared to add it soon as many states are adding more E911<br>
> laws.<br>
><br>
> Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> From: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Sent: ?10/?29/?2014 4:47 PM<br>
> To: Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
><br>
> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of<br>
> the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Scott,<br>
><br>
> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
> of 911.<br>
><br>
> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
><br>
> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on<br>
> all the phones<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> scott<br>
><br>
> CM 8.6.2<br>
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Message: 25<br>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:39:26 -0500<br>
From: Robert Kulagowski <<a href="mailto:rkulagow@gmail.com" target="_blank">rkulagow@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Any experience with services for updating the<br>
LIDB?<br>
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<CAGe0w3QEHmMTd0z0J+Vw=mP1aOMHRQNcY9=<a href="mailto:Ed2r7MTZh%2BR9Okw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">Ed2r7MTZh+R9Okw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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We may be moving to syncing our DIDs with actual names instead of a<br>
generic company name. Has anyone done this in bulk; we might have a<br>
few thousand in the first go-around.<br>
<br>
Are there services that allow you to update the LIDB on your own, or<br>
is it up to the provider that "owns" the DID range?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
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Message: 26<br>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:26:03 +0000<br>
From: <Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm trying to plan some maintenance time for an upgrade cut-over and I would need a ball-park figure at least for the boot-up time of a 10.5 VM (C240 M3, TRC#2)<br>
There are no phones on this cluster as it's a SME, only a handful of SIP trunks and plenty route patterns etc.<br>
(As with the wonders of big companies, I was not around while the cluster was staged, so I have no helpful information from there)<br>
<br>
Any ideas welcome.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Zoltan Kelemen<br>
Emerson<br>
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Message: 27<br>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:54:59 +0000<br>
From: Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
To: "Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com" <Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
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<C75AF2AD9308C246AFBDDB994E3E29832F0FA6D7@PHANES.helion.local><br>
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I'm wondering what others are seeing, but in my environments (BE6K up to 1000 users) 10.5 seems to be ~15 minutes from utils system restart to everything being live. This is a rough guess as I haven't actually timed it.. The various tomcat pieces for the admin pages take quite a bit of time to become functional. Frankly this is one of the few things that haven't improved since earlier versions.<br>
<br>
<br>
Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
<br>
direct voice. <a href="tel:443.541.1518" value="+14435411518" target="_blank">443.541.1518</a><br>
fax. <a href="tel:410.252.9284" value="+14102529284" target="_blank">410.252.9284</a><br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com<br>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:26 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm trying to plan some maintenance time for an upgrade cut-over and I would need a ball-park figure at least for the boot-up time of a 10.5 VM (C240 M3, TRC#2)<br>
There are no phones on this cluster as it's a SME, only a handful of SIP trunks and plenty route patterns etc.<br>
(As with the wonders of big companies, I was not around while the cluster was staged, so I have no helpful information from there)<br>
<br>
Any ideas welcome.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Zoltan Kelemen<br>
Emerson<br>
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Message: 28<br>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:03:00 -0500<br>
From: "Heim, Dennis" <<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com" target="_blank">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>><br>
To: Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>,<br>
"Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com" <Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
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10.x items seem to hold CPU at 100% for the first 10-12 minutes, and then a little after that the services actual start.<br>
<br>
Dennis Heim | Collaboration Solutions Architect<br>
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814<br>
[cid:image001.png@01CFF40F.8A703550]<<a href="https://twitter.com/CollabSensei" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CollabSensei</a>><br>
[cid:image002.png@01CFF40F.8A703550]<<a href="mailto:xmpp%3Adennis.heim@wwt.com" target="_blank">xmpp:dennis.heim@wwt.com</a>>[cid:image003.png@01CFF40F.8A703550]<tel:+13142121814>[cid:image004.png@01CFF40F.8A703550]<<a href="mailto:sip%3Adennis.heim@wwt.com" target="_blank">sip:dennis.heim@wwt.com</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch<br>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:55 AM<br>
To: Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
<br>
I'm wondering what others are seeing, but in my environments (BE6K up to 1000 users) 10.5 seems to be ~15 minutes from utils system restart to everything being live. This is a rough guess as I haven't actually timed it.. The various tomcat pieces for the admin pages take quite a bit of time to become functional. Frankly this is one of the few things that haven't improved since earlier versions.<br>
<br>
<br>
Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA<br>
1965 Greenspring Drive<br>
Timonium, MD 21093<br>
<br>
direct voice. 443.541.1518<br>
fax. 410.252.9284<br>
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com<mailto:<a href="mailto:Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com" target="_blank">Zoltan.Kelemen@Emerson.com</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:26 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm trying to plan some maintenance time for an upgrade cut-over and I would need a ball-park figure at least for the boot-up time of a 10.5 VM (C240 M3, TRC#2)<br>
There are no phones on this cluster as it's a SME, only a handful of SIP trunks and plenty route patterns etc.<br>
(As with the wonders of big companies, I was not around while the cluster was staged, so I have no helpful information from there)<br>
<br>
Any ideas welcome.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Zoltan Kelemen<br>
Emerson<br>
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Message: 29<br>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:25:04 +0100<br>
From: Maciej Karpinski <<a href="mailto:maciej.karpinski@consign.se" target="_blank">maciej.karpinski@consign.se</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com" target="_blank">Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com</a><br>
Cc: Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 10.5 VM boot-up time?<br>
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Just made a test on our SME 10.5.1 running on (C240 M3, TRC#2)<br>
<br>
Everything was up and running and database was synced 10 minutes and 20<br>
seconds after the restart command was entered from CLI.<br>
<br>
But this is a regular restart, a restart during upgrade usually takes<br>
longer time.<br>
<br>
Br.<br>
Maciej<br>
<br>
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, <<a href="mailto:Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com" target="_blank">Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I?m trying to plan some maintenance time for an upgrade cut-over and I<br>
> would need a ball-park figure at least for the boot-up time of a 10.5 VM<br>
> (C240 M3, TRC#2)<br>
><br>
> There are no phones on this cluster as it?s a SME, only a handful of SIP<br>
> trunks and plenty route patterns etc.<br>
><br>
> (As with the wonders of big companies, I was not around while the cluster<br>
> was staged, so I have no helpful information from there)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Any ideas welcome.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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From: Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Wes Sisk (wsisk)" <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>>, Ryan Ratliff<br>
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OK I get the picture.......<br>
<br>
So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on all<br>
1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the line<br>
or does it call back the phone?<br>
<br>
I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID<br>
numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
<br>
TIA<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
><br>
> Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in<br>
> the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID.<br>
> Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow<br>
> them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
><br>
> -Wes<br>
><br>
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state<br>
>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>>><br>
>>> scott<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody<br>
>>>> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Scott,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>>>> of 911.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>>>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines<br>
>>>>> on all the phones<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> scott<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:00:41 +0000<br>
From: <MManly@TEP.com><br>
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CER will call back the number associated with the ERL assigned to the switchport.<br>
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From: Scott Voll [<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Received: Thursday, 30 Oct 2014, 7:33AM<br>
To: Wes Sisk (wsisk) [<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>]; Ryan Ratliff [<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>]<br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
<br>
OK I get the picture.......<br>
<br>
So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on all 1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the line or does it call back the phone?<br>
<br>
I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
<br>
TIA<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
<br>
Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID. Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
<br>
-Wes<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment? Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Scott,<br>
<br>
SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911.<br>
<br>
Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
<br>
we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on all the phones<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:08:52 -0600<br>
From: Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
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You'd have to make the DNs longer and make sure to base the non-did on an<br>
available range to avoid overlap and inter-digit timeout.<br>
<br>
So, if you have 43xx available, make the non-did range 43xxxx.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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> Use a partition that isn't accessible by anything except CER CTI ports.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> OK I get the picture.......<br>
>><br>
>> So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on<br>
>> all 1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the<br>
>> line or does it call back the phone?<br>
>><br>
>> I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID<br>
>> numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
>><br>
>> TIA<br>
>><br>
>> Scott<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in<br>
>>> the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID.<br>
>>> Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow<br>
>>> them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Wes<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
>>> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
>>> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
>>> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state<br>
>>>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
>>>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
>>>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>>>>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> scott<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>>>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of<br>
>>>>>> somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting<br>
>>>>>> dialtone.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Scott,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>>>>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>>>>>> of 911.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>>>>>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines<br>
>>>>>>> on all the phones<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> scott<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:09:06 +0000<br>
From: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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And no, you can't put a shared line on 1300 phones. Use a different DN range or something and let CER handle the translations for you just like it would any other phone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Use a partition that isn't accessible by anything except CER CTI ports.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
OK I get the picture.......<br>
<br>
So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on all 1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the line or does it call back the phone?<br>
<br>
I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
<br>
TIA<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
<br>
Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID. Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
<br>
-Wes<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment? Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Scott,<br>
<br>
SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911.<br>
<br>
Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
<br>
we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on all the phones<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
scott<br>
<br>
CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:20:04 -0700<br>
From: Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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how about a shared line per floor?<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><br>
> wrote:<br>
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> And no, you can't put a shared line on 1300 phones. Use a different DN<br>
> range or something and let CER handle the translations for you just like it<br>
> would any other phone.<br>
><br>
> -Ryan<br>
><br>
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Use a partition that isn't accessible by anything except CER CTI ports.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> OK I get the picture.......<br>
>><br>
>> So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on<br>
>> all 1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the<br>
>> line or does it call back the phone?<br>
>><br>
>> I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID<br>
>> numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
>><br>
>> TIA<br>
>><br>
>> Scott<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in<br>
>>> the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID.<br>
>>> Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow<br>
>>> them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Wes<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
>>> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
>>> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
>>> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state<br>
>>>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
>>>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
>>>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>>>>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> scott<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>>>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of<br>
>>>>>> somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting<br>
>>>>>> dialtone.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Scott,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>>>>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>>>>>> of 911.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>>>>>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines<br>
>>>>>>> on all the phones<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> scott<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:24:49 +0000<br>
From: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT<br>
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If you are concerned about PSAP callback then this won't fly either unless getting to the right floor is all you are concerned about. You'll also have issues with held calls made from logged-out phones showing up on all phones on the floor.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
how about a shared line per floor?<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
And no, you can't put a shared line on 1300 phones. Use a different DN range or something and let CER handle the translations for you just like it would any other phone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Use a partition that isn't accessible by anything except CER CTI ports.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
OK I get the picture.......<br>
<br>
So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on all 1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the line or does it call back the phone?<br>
<br>
I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
<br>
TIA<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
<br>
Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID. Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
<br>
-Wes<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment? Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
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scott<br>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
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On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Scott,<br>
<br>
SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911.<br>
<br>
Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
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On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
<br>
we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on all the phones<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
scott<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:03:49 -0600<br>
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Use a partition that isn't accessible by anything except CER CTI ports.<br>
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> OK I get the picture.......<br>
><br>
> So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on<br>
> all 1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the<br>
> line or does it call back the phone?<br>
><br>
> I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID<br>
> numbers so have a very limited amount to use.<br>
><br>
> TIA<br>
><br>
> Scott<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.<br>
>><br>
>> Give the phones DN?s, even just internal DN?s. It is ?burning a DN? in<br>
>> the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID.<br>
>> Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR?s to a help desk. Or at least allow<br>
>> them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.<br>
>><br>
>> -Wes<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision<br>
>> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the<br>
>> nearest logged out phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a<br>
>> lawyer so take that for what you will.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state<br>
>>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS<br>
>>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in<br>
>>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?<br>
>>>> Burning two DN's? one for the user and one for every phone?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> scott<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.<br>
>>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of<br>
>>>>> somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting<br>
>>>>> dialtone.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Scott,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones<br>
>>>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability<br>
>>>>> of 911.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Here's one option without knowing your environment design or<br>
>>>>> limitations: Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -Ryan<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines<br>
>>>>>> on all the phones<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> scott<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> CM 8.6.2<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:49:33 +0000<br>
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