Thanks Brian, you are probably right. To be clear though: that's a standalone ELM/PLM only, and not Co-Resident.<br><br>Important: For a standalone installation of Cisco Prime License Manager, only static MAC addresses are supported on the virtual machine. Using the vSphere client, select Edit virtual machine settings > Network adapter 1 > MAC Address. Select the Manual option and enter a unique MAC address.<br><div>Source: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/plm/10_5_1/userguide/CPLM_BK_UD1156AD_00_user-guide-rel-1051/CPLM_BK_UD1156AD_00_user-guide-rel-1051_chapter_01.html#CPLM_TK_I7706464_00">PLM User Guide</a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri Nov 07 2014 at 12:02:51 PM Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The MAC address is used for ELM/PLM. That may be where the confusion is.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Anthony Holloway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think that's how it use to work a few versions back, but I don't think that's accurate anymore.<br><br>UCCX uses the license mac, which is dynamically created based on a few settings of the server as you can read here:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Licensing_Model_for_Virtualized_UC_Applications" target="_blank">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Licensing_Model_for_Virtualized_UC_Applications</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>If the MAC Address of the network adapter were to be in play at all, then the Answer File Generator could not predict your license mac.</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri Nov 07 2014 at 8:47:07 AM Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Since UCCX still does its license mac based on the hardware properties of the VM you can end up with a new MAC for the NIC and invalid licensing if you haven’t
set this to manual. VMWare generates these macs automatically and they aren’t guaranteed to stay the same as machines are moved, cloned, etc unless you use the manual setting.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heim, Dennis; Jason Aarons (AM); <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX 8.5.1sr3 to sr4 to Refresh Upgrade 10.5.1<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed Nov 05 2014 at 6:55:04 AM Heim, Dennis <<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com" target="_blank">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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to an offline environment. If you have the compute resources do it there, or if not some type of Lab a Service (LaaS). Maybe use Veeam to migrate virtual machines, if you are already virtual (make sure to sure mac addresses to manual prior to copying).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Then you need to determine what you time frame is.. can you lose a few days of: cdr’s, historical reports,
etc. Migrating VM’s between environment would need to be worked out. However, that allows you to identify any issues, develop a realistic timeframe for each aspect of the upgrade process. Most importantly, it allows a lot of the work to be done not in the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wow. Are you going MCS to UCS too? If not, I'm doing that exact upgrade very soon and no documentation I have reviewed indicated how long upgrades would take, let alone 5 hours.
Right now my plan has a time budget of 3 hours for the same, which does not include moving ISOs to the datastore (I like doing local upgrades) nor upgrading clients.<u></u><u></u></p>
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