<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Device control is still based on device association, not owner userid. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Nov 25, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Fair enough. I know that with SNR you need to associate both the hard phone and remote destination profile to the same userid to make things work. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm wondering what the differences would be with both devices configured configured as anonymous. I'm guessing 'remotely' controlling the hard phone with the soft clients is out. </div><div><br></div><div>I could always try for a short period of time and be out of compliance. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone. </div><div><br></div><div>Lelio</div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 25, 2014, at 3:47 PM, "NateCCIE" <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com">nateccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Licensing and making things work are completely separate. So as long as you leave the device anonymous/public space a user will not move up to the higher tier of licensing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lelio Fulgenzi [<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> NateCCIE<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If they take up an enhanced license, I'm ok with that. We have enough to go around for now. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My concern is if, after pairing a hard phone and a jabber client to the same userID, the system wants to use an enhanced plus license. I don't have any if those and I'm not keen on operating in non-compliance mode. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Comments on that?<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "NateCCIE" <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com">nateccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Nope. Each Jabber softphone client will use its own enhanced license, so if a user want Jabber on a PC/MAC and on a iPhone, that is 3 enhanced licenses including one deskphone. Just like CIPC.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lelio Fulgenzi [<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> NateCCIE<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for clearing that up. It's good to know that some platforms don't support phone only mode. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We have Enhanced licenses, not Enhanced Plus, I'm hoping that each user can have at least one Jabber instance. I'm also hoping that I don't need enhanced plus for users to have multiple jabber instances. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">According to this, it looks like I'm set:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/product_solution_overview0900aecd806cc7a4.html">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/product_solution_overview0900aecd806cc7a4.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Lelio<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:37 PM, NateCCIE <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com">nateccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Your looking for Jabber Phone mode.<br><br>Some clients support it some don't. I believe we're still waiting for Mac phone mode.<br><br>Normally when you say jabber for everyone your talking about free im&p with no softphone. Softphone is always licensed.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 25, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I know I have a lot of reading and catching up to do, but I'm wondering if it's possible to deploy Jabber across our organization (even if just for a small pilot) without an IM/presence installation?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">If possible, what do I lose? I'm assuming the obvious presence modality options are not available, but are there others?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Would I simply be deploying Jabber as a soft phone client? I'm looking at deploying these for desktops and mobile devices. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On a side note: Do they even make a soft phone any more, ie IP Communicator?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">cisco-voip mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></body></html>