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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I had to take 5 exams to get my CCNP Voice and it was a pain in my ass, as I recall. I'll have to read up and see if it applies to me. Thanks for the heads up.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Ryan<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: Dennis.Heim@wwt.com<br>To: ryanhuff@outlook.com; ben.story@gmail.com; wokka@justfamily.org<br>CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs<br>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:01:12 +0000<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;">Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heim, Dennis; Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">Dennis,<br>
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The conversion tool shows that <i>CIPTV2</i> is the only test that CCNP Voice needs to convert to CCNP Collaboration. This is really new info though so it could change.<br>
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As of this writing the CCNP Voice retirement date is listed as Q4 2015 and PearsonVue doesn't even have 300-075 (CIPTV2) listed as a schedue-lable test yet.<br>
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>From what I understand, the CIPTV2 test covers video related material. Given that the CCIE Collaboration is based on the 9.x stack I assume the topics will cover things like Collaboration Edge, Jabber Video, Telepresence ... etc<br>
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Ryan</span></p>
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To: <a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>; <a href="mailto:ben.story@gmail.com">
ben.story@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org">wokka@justfamily.org</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs<br>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:50:05 +0000</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Huff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> voip puck<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (<a href="http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html</a>).
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Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration?<br>
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If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video.<br>
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This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that.<br>
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My grumpy two cents,<br>
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Ryan</span></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:ben.story@gmail.com">ben.story@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org">wokka@justfamily.org</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs</span></p>
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