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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They are just retiring, not actually *<b>invalidating</b>* CCNP Voice, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I mean all of our CCNP Voice certificates won’t go up in a puff of smoke once CCNP Collab comes out. Only that no new CCNP Voice certs would be awarded after
a yet to be announced date (or has it been announced already? Anyway)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Since I’ve just got mine, I don’t think I’ll be in any rush to update to Collaboration, especially not until at least some valuable training materials are out
. From my experience, I wouldn’t rely on classroom training alone. So far none of the “official cisco training classes” I’ve attended covered *<b>all</b>* of the exam material. And there’s barely a synopsis for CIPTV2 out so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0F245F">Zoltan Kelemen</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0F245F"><br>
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Implementation Engineering<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Huff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 February 2015 19:58<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> voip puck<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (<a href="http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html">http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html</a>).
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Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration?<br>
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If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video.<br>
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This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that.<br>
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My grumpy two cents,<br>
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Ryan<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600<br>
From: <a href="mailto:ben.story@gmail.com">ben.story@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org">wokka@justfamily.org</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ben Story <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:ben.story@gmail.com" target="_blank">ben.story@gmail.com</a><a href="mailto:ben.story@gmail.com" target="_blank"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">@ntwrk80<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://showbrain.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://showbrain.blogspot.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">"From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!"</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">. -- </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">St.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration" target="_blank">https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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