<div dir="ltr">Okay, the bulb is getting a little brighter...<div><br></div><div>So, if I understand what you're saying, create _cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a> as a zone then create the SRV under that? </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Eric Pedersen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PedersenE@bennettjones.com" target="_blank">PedersenE@bennettjones.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I was told by a Cisco engineer that cisco-internal is no longer supported and it didn’t work for us after we enabled MRA. I think the pinpoint subdomain being
referred to now is creating the _<i>cisco-uds.</i>_tcp SRV record as a domain on your internal DNS server. That works perfectly.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erick Wellnitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2015 8:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] jabber dual domain question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm seeing the 10.6.2 client query for _cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.xyz.com</a>,
_cuplogin._tcp.xyz.com...then _collab-edge._<a href="http://tls.xyz.com" target="_blank">tls.xyz.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't see a query for <a href="http://cisco-internal.xyz.com" target="_blank">
cisco-internal.xyz.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">According to the document you linked, Jabber will first perform this query:<br>
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_cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.xyz.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If nothing comes back, then it will try:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">_cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore, the pinpoint subdomain you are creating is: <a href="http://cisco-internal.xyz.com" target="_blank">
cisco-internal.xyz.com</a> on your internal DNS server. This alleviates your need to host
<a href="http://xyz.com" target="_blank">
xyz.com</a> (the parent domain) on your internal DNS, where it would become authoritative and require you to enter every external DNS entry into your internal DNS server.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Excerpt from Jabber DNS Guide, modified to fit your example:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>When the client queries the name server for SRV records, it issues additional queries if the name server does not return _cisco-uds or _cuplogin.</i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>The additional queries check for the <a href="http://cisco-internal.xyz.com" target="_blank">
cisco-internal.xyz.com</a> pinpoint subdomain zone.</i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>For example, Adam McKenzie's services domain is <a href="http://xyz.com" target="_blank">
xyz.com</a> when he starts the client. The client then issues the following query:</i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>_cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.xyz.com</a></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>_cuplogin._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.xyz.com</a></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>_collab-edge._<a href="http://tls.xyz.com" target="_blank">tls.xyz.com</a></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>If the name server does not return _cisco-uds or _cuplogin SRV records, the client then issues the following query:</i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>_cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com</a></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>_cuplogin._<a href="http://tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com</a></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 9:02 AM Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I understand how to create a pinpoint zone but I'm trying to understand how to create the SRV records for Jabber service discovery based on this example. Do they just get created like:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><a href="http://Jabber1.xyz.com" target="_blank">Jabber1.xyz.com</a>
zone<br>
Create _cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com" target="_blank">tcp.xyz.com</a>
under this or will that not give expected behvior?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 10, 2015 4:42 AM, "Justin Steinberg" <<a href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsteinberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>This is more of a feature of DNS than jabber. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>See if this blog article helps.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><a href="http://exchangenerd.com/2014/03/pin-point-dns-split-dns-alternative/" target="_blank">http://exchangenerd.com/2014/03/pin-point-dns-split-dns-alternative/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 10, 2015 12:05 AM, "Erick Wellnitz" <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>The 10.6 planning guide makes mention of it but only a one liner.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 9, 2015 9:33 PM, "Anthony Holloway" <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't have anything to indicate that it is, or isn't still supported, but I would guess that it would be until we hear an officially announcement and that document get's updated.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I might just fire this up in dCloud and take it for a test drive tomorrow.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another thing to consider is Jabber via MRA and trying to sign your inside host certs with a public CA. In November of this year (2015), that goes away.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.digicert.com/internal-names.htm" target="_blank">https://www.digicert.com/internal-names.htm</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you would have had .com externally, and .net internally, then the cert thing doesn't matter, and your question still stands. So, again, I'll see if I can lab it up tomorrow with the latest version of Jabber.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:54 PM Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jabber 10.6.2<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have an internal domain (<a href="http://xyz.com" target="_blank">xyz.com</a>)
and an internal domain (xyx.local)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the pinpoint subdomain still supported in Jabber 10.6? If not, what are the ramifications to adding
<a href="http://xyz.com" target="_blank">
xyz.com</a> zone to my internal DNS servers?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> The last update of the DNS guide was a year ago.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/Windows/9_7/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide_chapter_010.html#CJAB_TK_UEAD61BF_00" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/Windows/9_7/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide_chapter_010.html#CJAB_TK_UEAD61BF_00</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p>
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