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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes that’s right, then you create @ SRV records in that zone. It looked a little bizarre to me. If it’s Window DNS you’re using, you can’t do it with the GUI;
you need to use dnscmd. Someone kindly posted this in the Collaboration CCP forum:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">dnscmd . /zoneadd _cisco-uds._tcp.xyz.com. /dsprimary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">dnscmd . /recordadd _cisco-uds._tcp.xyz.com. @ SRV 0 0 8443 cucm1.xyz.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">dnscmd . /recordadd _cisco-uds._tcp.xyz.com. @ SRV 0 0 8443 cucm2.xyz.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Erick Wellnitz [mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2015 9:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric Pedersen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Anthony Holloway; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] jabber dual domain question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Okay, the bulb is getting a little brighter...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, if I understand what you're saying, create _cisco-uds._<a href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a>
as a zone then create the SRV under that? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Eric Pedersen <<a href="mailto:PedersenE@bennettjones.com" target="_blank">PedersenE@bennettjones.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I was told by a Cisco engineer that cisco-internal is no longer supported and it didn’t work for
us after we enabled MRA. I think the pinpoint subdomain being referred to now is creating the _<i>cisco-uds.</i>_tcp SRV record as a domain on your internal DNS server. That works perfectly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erick Wellnitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2015 8:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] jabber dual domain question</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'm seeing the 10.6.2 client query for _cisco-uds._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a>,
_cuplogin._tcp.xyz.com...then _collab-edge._<a target="_blank" href="http://tls.xyz.com">tls.xyz.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I don't see a query for
<a target="_blank" href="http://cisco-internal.xyz.com">
cisco-internal.xyz.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">According to the document you linked, Jabber will first perform this query:<br>
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_cisco-uds._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If nothing comes back, then it will try:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_cisco-uds._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com">tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Therefore, the pinpoint subdomain you are creating is:
<a target="_blank" href="http://cisco-internal.xyz.com">
cisco-internal.xyz.com</a> on your internal DNS server. This alleviates your need to host
<a target="_blank" href="http://xyz.com">
xyz.com</a> (the parent domain) on your internal DNS, where it would become authoritative and require you to enter every external DNS entry into your internal DNS server.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Excerpt from Jabber DNS Guide, modified to fit your example:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>When the client queries the name server for SRV records, it issues additional queries if the name server does not return _cisco-uds or _cuplogin.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>The additional queries check for the
<a target="_blank" href="http://cisco-internal.xyz.com">
cisco-internal.xyz.com</a> pinpoint subdomain zone.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>For example, Adam McKenzie's services domain is
<a target="_blank" href="http://xyz.com">
xyz.com</a> when he starts the client. The client then issues the following query:</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>_cisco-uds._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>_cuplogin._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>_collab-edge._<a target="_blank" href="http://tls.xyz.com">tls.xyz.com</a></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>If the name server does not return _cisco-uds or _cuplogin SRV records, the client then issues the following query:</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>_cisco-uds._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com">tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com</a></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i>_cuplogin._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com">tcp.cisco-internal.xyz.com</a></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 9:02 AM Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I understand how to create a pinpoint zone but I'm trying to understand how to create the SRV records for Jabber service discovery based on this example. Do they just get created like:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://Jabber1.xyz.com">Jabber1.xyz.com</a>
zone<br>
Create _cisco-uds._<a target="_blank" href="http://tcp.xyz.com">tcp.xyz.com</a>
under this or will that not give expected behvior?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Apr 10, 2015 4:42 AM, "Justin Steinberg" <<a href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsteinberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>This is more of a feature of DNS than jabber. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>See if this blog article helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://exchangenerd.com/2014/03/pin-point-dns-split-dns-alternative/">http://exchangenerd.com/2014/03/pin-point-dns-split-dns-alternative/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Apr 10, 2015 12:05 AM, "Erick Wellnitz" <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The 10.6 planning guide makes mention of it but only a one liner.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Apr 9, 2015 9:33 PM, "Anthony Holloway" <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I don't have anything to indicate that it is, or isn't still supported, but I would guess that it would be until we hear an officially announcement and that document get's updated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I might just fire this up in dCloud and take it for a test drive tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Another thing to consider is Jabber via MRA and trying to sign your inside host certs with a public CA. In November of this year (2015), that goes away.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.digicert.com/internal-names.htm">https://www.digicert.com/internal-names.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If you would have had .com externally, and .net internally, then the cert thing doesn't matter, and your question still stands. So, again, I'll see if I can lab it up tomorrow
with the latest version of Jabber.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:54 PM Erick Wellnitz <<a href="mailto:ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">ewellnitzvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Jabber 10.6.2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have an internal domain (<a target="_blank" href="http://xyz.com">xyz.com</a>)
and an internal domain (xyx.local)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is the pinpoint subdomain still supported in Jabber 10.6? If not, what are the ramifications to adding
<a target="_blank" href="http://xyz.com">
xyz.com</a> zone to my internal DNS servers?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> The last update of the DNS guide was a year ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/Windows/9_7/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide_chapter_010.html#CJAB_TK_UEAD61BF_00">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/Windows/9_7/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide/CJAB_BK_C606D8A9_00_cisco-jabber-dns-configuration-guide_chapter_010.html#CJAB_TK_UEAD61BF_00</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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