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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I just want to see what is going on. I like having a window knowing exactly what it’s doing under the covers. Sort of like Java. In Java you can pull up the
console if you really want to know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Pagan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heim, Dennis; Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#17375E">I’m digging up an old thread here (perhaps because of tender pain points) but the point you made about multi-site is spot on, Dennis… especially if the remote
location’s connectivity to the PCD’s site is less than ideal. In this type of scenario, one can encounter issues with PCD where a migration task incorrectly reports failure on the installation step for a migration due to delays in the CUCM installation and
PCDs built-in timers (e.g. a 60m wait time before determining a migrated host is unreachable).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#17375E">When granular control is needed in a large cluster spanning multiple locations, PCD starts to show its limitations but I’m hoping additional features are added
that focus on how PCD recovers from certain failures when multiple nodes are grouped within individual install/migrate steps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#17375E">- Dan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Heim, Dennis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all ISOs
from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare datastores instead of from the PCD server.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><a href="https://twitter.com/CollabSensei"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="124" height="25" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D0744D.77A41450" alt="twitter"></span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><a href="xmpp:dennis.heim@wwt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="95" height="28" id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.png@01D0744D.77A41450" alt="chat"></span></a><a href="tel:+13142121814"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="95" height="28" id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.png@01D0744D.77A41450" alt="Phone"></span></a><a href="sip:dennis.heim@wwt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="95" height="28" id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image004.png@01D0744D.77A41450" alt="video"></span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">"Innovation happens on project squared" --
<a href="http://www.projectsquared.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://www.projectsquared.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue"><a href="https://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim"><span style="color:#0563C1">Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Room</span></a></span></u><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Collins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Just a note on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed,
No jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you upgrade or install a new build.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#009DB1">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#009DB1">Matthew Collins
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Haas, Neal<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 March 2015 14:41<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Andrew Grech'; Nick<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Neal Haas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> cisco-voip
<a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Grech<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, "Nick" <<a href="mailto:csvoip@googlemail.com">csvoip@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown below.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<h3>Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1<o:p></o:p></h3>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path from your current release to a listed release in
<cite>Cisco Unified Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier</cite> at
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#0066CC">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf</span></a>.
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<p>February 24, 2015 <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Direct Upgrade: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),
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<p>8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 8.6(2a),
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<p>8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a), <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1), <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted), <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted), <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted), <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt">Version and Description<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p>This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and changes from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with additional changes that are specific to this SU.
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<p><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Note<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p>You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x), 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over any 10.5(2)ES’s. Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x,
and 9.x need to be requested via PUT (<a href="http://www.cisco.com/upgrade" target="_blank">www.cisco.com/upgrade</a>) to obtain the necessary license. This SU should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix, however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1 direct to 10.5.2 SU1.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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