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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">CSF<USERNAME> was a similar to CSF<sAMAcountName><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think it would be nice if this could be changed to something closer to a UPN (UserPrincipalName) or a contact object id like
<a href="mailto:Jason.aarons@sub.domain.com">Jason.aarons@sub.domain.com</a> or <a href="mailto:+14045551212@sub.domain.com">
+14045551212@sub.domain.com</a> for a lobby phone, however this would create some headaches in backwards compatability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree the char limitations makes you have to get creative for user ids.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian V<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 5, 2015 5:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CSF Device name and format - Discrepancy between older docs, online help and reality - CUCM 10.5.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Anthony, Thanks for the info. I opened a TAC case on this as I found it pretty frustrating. Cisco has a blanket recommendation to use CSF<USERNAME> and I think that's causing confusion and frustration with
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Jabber group opened documentation defect CSCuu68160 for that groups Jabber 10.6 deployment documentation that they own.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I got transferred over to the CUCM group for their part to fix the online help. I'll post the defect when I get it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">My jabber engineer also looked up the device naming for the CTI remote device type. I've included a summary below for all the device types<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">admin:run sql select name, tkmodel, devicenameformat from typeproduct where name like '%CTI Remote Device%'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[a-zA-Z0-9]{1,15}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Upper/Lower case letters, numbers Total length =15, no requirement to start with "CSF"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is the database rule which governs the name format for a CSF device:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">admin:run sql select name, tkmodel, devicenameformat from typeproduct where name like '%Client Services Framework%'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">name tkmodel devicenameformat </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Cisco Unified Client Services Framework 503 [a-zA-Z0-9]{1,15}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, the documentation is obviously incorrect, because we can see that in two places the validation regex does not contain "dot" nor can it be longer than 15 characters.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an added bonus, the BOT, TCT, and TAB devices require all upper case letters, and *do* support dot, as well as dash and underscore.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">admin:run sql select name, tkmodel, devicenameformat from typeproduct where name like '%Dual Mode%' or name like '%Tablet%'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">name tkmodel devicenameformat </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Cisco Dual Mode for iPhone 562 TCT[0-9A-Z._-]{1,12}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Cisco Jabber for Tablet 652 TAB[0-9A-Z._-]{1,12}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:02 PM Brian V <<a href="mailto:bvanbens@gmail.com" target="_blank">bvanbens@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a customer where the username has a dot "." in it. First.Last<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cisco's docs recommend to make the CSF device name be CSF + Username.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know this is not required anymore but many customers like the consistency of that naming standard.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On my current customers CUCM 10.5.2.10000-5 when i try to add a CSF device with a dot I get the error message that the device name should contain the valid characters [a-zA-Z0-9]{1,15} which seems to imply it can only be 15 characters
long and contain letters and numbers only<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On my current customers CUCM 10.5.2.10000-5 server the online help says that CSF devices can contain the following: "Enter a text name for the Client Services Framework. This name can comprise up to 50 characters.
Valid characters include letters, numbers, dashes, dots (periods), spaces, and underscores."<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">CSF doc for 9.x says the same thing that dot, dash, underscore and length=50 is ok<br>
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/9_0_1/ccmcfg/CUCM_BK_CDF59AFB_00_admin-guide-90_chapter_01101001.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/9_0_1/ccmcfg/CUCM_BK_CDF59AFB_00_admin-guide-90_chapter_01101001.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">CSF doc for jabber 10.6 doesn't mention any requirements for the name but does recommend using CSF+Username as the format.<br>
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/10_6/CJAB_BK_C56DE1AB_00_cisco-jabber-106-deployment-and-installation-guide/CJAB_BK_C56DE1AB_00_cisco-jabber-106-deployment-and_chapter_0101.html#CJAB_TK_C7F0CAD6_00" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/10_6/CJAB_BK_C56DE1AB_00_cisco-jabber-106-deployment-and-installation-guide/CJAB_BK_C56DE1AB_00_cisco-jabber-106-deployment-and_chapter_0101.html#CJAB_TK_C7F0CAD6_00</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">There is a support community posting about this referencing a bug that states it wont be fixed.<br>
<a href="https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12387151/does-jabber-csf-device-support-username-contain-dot" target="_blank">https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12387151/does-jabber-csf-device-support-username-contain-dot</a><br>
<a href="https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCus90842/?reffering_site=dumpcr" target="_blank">https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCus90842/?reffering_site=dumpcr</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So is there a documentation bug or did Cisco change the rules somewhere along the way ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Is there any definitive documentation that states the proper naming standard for the CSF device and the other Jabber device types (BOT, TCT, TAB)
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