<html><body><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>Not sure if mentioned in this thread, but something to consider is to have a VM with the base CUCM installed for each of your pubs and subs. That way, if you have to restore, you just spin up the base install and restore from DRS.</div><div><br></div><div>That would save some significant time. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>University of Guelph<br><div><br></div>519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354<br>lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<br>Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<span name="x"></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Rob Dawson" <rdawson@force3.com><br><b>Cc: </b>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:53:04 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd Party backup tools<br><div><br></div><style><!--
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--></style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I have cloned nodes for lab testing with no issue, but during a window when I could shut them down first.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">On the flip side, I have seen nodes get built erroneously on servers that were being backed up by Veeam and a stuck snapshot from a backup job cause call processing errors and node restarts. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><table class="MsoNormalTable mceItemTable" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" data-mce-style="padding: .75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Rob</span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" data-mce-style="padding: .75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;"></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" data-mce-style="padding: .75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;"></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Reeves<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:42 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Ryan Huff<br> <b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd Party backup tools</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">We've always had DRS backups in place given thats the officially supported path for restore. Do keep some Veeam backups in place but tend to run them infrequently when we're looking to do work on the cluster and want a quick fallback position. I would tend to power down and backup to ensure consistency as I'm not sure how well informix works with running machine snapshots on restore. </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Nathan</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">While it is more than NOT supported; I have had success with cloning ucos vm's (while powered off). Then powering on the clones with the parents turned off. Again, clearly not supported but I have not noticed any behavior differences.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">For kick's and curiosity's sake I have vmotioned a lab cluster (with sip pstn) before while powered on ... caused cpu spikes and the trunks had to be reset.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">However, in practice I'd not wonder outside the bounds of the DocWiki for backup purposes.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#575757" data-mce-style="font-size: 7.0pt; color: #575757;">Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br> <br> -------- Original message --------<br> From: Anthony Holloway <br> Date:10/26/2015 12:20 PM (GMT-05:00) <br> To: "Heim, Dennis" <br> Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <br> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd Party backup tools</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">As a Cisco partner, I will be sticking to the book on this one (DRS).</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Ongoing_Virtualization_Operations_and_Maintenance#Backup.2C_Restore.2C_and_Server_Recovery" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Ongoing_Virtualization_Operations_and_Maintenance#Backup.2C_Restore.2C_and_Server_Recovery">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Ongoing_Virtualization_Operations_and_Maintenance#Backup.2C_Restore.2C_and_Server_Recovery</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">However, I am very curious to know what else works, and how well it works.</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Heim, Dennis <<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Whats the current thought process around 3<sup>rd</sup> party backup tools to quickly restore a CUCM? I’ve played with Veeam in the past. If the VM is shutdown, would that be kosher?</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; text-autospace: none;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: black;">Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; text-autospace: none;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: black;">World Wide Technology, Inc. | <a href="tel:%2B1%20314-212-1814" target="_blank" data-mce-href="tel:%2B1%20314-212-1814"> +1 314-212-1814</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; text-autospace: none;"><a href="https://twitter.com/CollabSensei" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://twitter.com/CollabSensei"><span style="text-decoration:none" data-mce-style="text-decoration: none;"><img border="0" width="124" height="25" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image006.gif@01D11093.740CAE00" alt="cid:image001.png@01D10DD2.7FC81F90" data-mce-src="cid:image006.gif@01D11093.740CAE00"></span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; text-autospace: none;"><span style="color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d;"><img border="0" width="95" height="28" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image007.gif@01D11093.740CAE00" alt="cid:image002.png@01D10DD2.7FC81F90" data-mce-src="cid:image007.gif@01D11093.740CAE00"></span><a href="tel:+13142121814" target="_blank" data-mce-href="tel:+13142121814"><span style="color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d; text-decoration: none;"><img border="0" width="95" height="28" id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image008.gif@01D11093.740CAE00" alt="cid:image003.png@01D10DD2.7FC81F90" data-mce-src="cid:image008.gif@01D11093.740CAE00"></span></a><span style="color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d;"><img border="0" width="95" height="28" id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image009.gif@01D11093.740CAE00" alt="cid:image004.png@01D10DD2.7FC81F90" data-mce-src="cid:image009.gif@01D11093.740CAE00"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; text-autospace: none;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 8.0pt; color: #1f497d;">“There is a fine line between Wrong and Visionary. 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