<div dir="ltr"><div>The error I get on CUC publishers is that it must be stratum 6 or better. 10.5.2 SU1 and better versions building in a dead network for hardware migration.</div><div><br></div><div>I would agree that the closer to 1 you can get, the better.</div><div><br></div><div>Worst case, since DNS is no longer taboo, is to sync directly with a stratum 1 time server in the wild.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Daniel Pagan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dpagan@fidelus.com" target="_blank">dpagan@fidelus.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I would follow the same recommendation documented for CUCM (stratum 3 or better) on CUC.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erick Wellnitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 1:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> voip puck <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>>; Aaron Banks <<a href="mailto:amichaelbanks@hotmail.com" target="_blank">amichaelbanks@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection 10.5.2 Split Brain Recovery<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I synch those with <a href="http://time.nist.gov" target="_blank">time.nist.gov</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Remember that you need a stratum 6 or better to sync UC apps like connection or CUCM.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Thomas LeMay <<a href="mailto:thomaslemay@comcast.net" target="_blank">thomaslemay@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Aaron Banks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection 10.5.2 Split Brain Recovery</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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the customer if the NTP server address he gave me was a windows server. Bingo. I changed the NTP source, rebooted the primary, called voicemail and then powered on the HA.<br>
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To: <a href="mailto:amichaelbanks@hotmail.com" target="_blank">amichaelbanks@hotmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection 10.5.2 Split Brain Recovery<br>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:25:47 +0000</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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From: Aaron Banks <br>
Date:10/27/2015 12:35 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>
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Subject: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection 10.5.2 Split Brain Recovery </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Has anyone seen/resolved a split brain recovery in Unity Connection 10.5.2? The primary and secondary keep swapping back and forth every few minutes. I can ping and trace to each server. I restarted the primary but that did not resolve the issue. In the
RTMT system logs, the secondary sends an NTP query to the primary the response is the primary is inaccessible or down. I'm stumped.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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