<div dir="ltr">This has always been the case for me, always run out of CPU cores on the TRC builds long before the memory, even with the 10k ova's on UCM, 20k ova on UCxn and 400 agent CCX.<div><br></div><div>The c240's also come with something like 12 nics, so never had an issue with bandwidth either, but I have had some customers swap out for 10gb nics, just to cut down on cable size and standardize with the rest of their servers.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Rob Dawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdawson@force3.com" target="_blank">rdawson@force3.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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on a server with direct attached storage anyway) then you are likely not going to exceed the memory and disk capacity on the 7K.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A 10k user CUCM instance burns 4 cores, 8 GB RAM and 110 GB of disk. Based on the fact that over subscription of resources is not supported, in most cases you
would probably run out of CPU before memory or disk space.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:41 PM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I hear what you're saying about the TRC and the listed components. I only raise the question about additional memory and additional NICs because in the docwiki
it says that you can add both more memory and more NICs (of the same type) and still be TRC. Or at least that's the way I read it. (REF below)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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"large" model has 124GB available to VMs, so I should be in good shape for a while.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/UC_Virtualization_Supported_Hardware#Memory_.2F_RAM" target="_blank">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/UC_Virtualization_Supported_Hardware#Memory_.2F_RAM</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Under "UC on UCS TRC" column: Total available is listed in Table 1. Additional memory may be added.<span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/UC_Virtualization_Supported_Hardware#IO_Adapters.2C_Controllers_and_Devices_for_LAN_Access_and_Storage_Access" target="_blank">http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/UC_Virtualization_Supported_Hardware#IO_Adapters.2C_Controllers_and_Devices_for_LAN_Access_and_Storage_Access</a></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">For UCS C-Series TRC:<br>
must exactly match adapter vendor/model/technology (e.g. Intel i350 for 1GbE or QLogic QLE2462 for FC) listed in Table 1 BOMs.<br>
Allowed NIC quantity must be same or higher than what is listed in Table 1 BOMs.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">"Ryan Huff" <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 3, 2015 4:02:30 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Lelio,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Yes, you can remove the pre-installed VM's and deploy your own (with respect to the allowances of the TRC).
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The reason adding additional hardware isn't supported is because the Business Edition UCS chassis's are sold as a TRC (Tested Reference Configuration); meaning that Cisco
has tested a variety of approved configurations on the platform with which TAC will support end-to-end.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Configurations (hardware or software) outside those parameters have not been tested and could cause unplanned/unpredictable results with which TAC will not support. With
the TRC stuff, you pretty much need to follow the DocWiki and deployment guides chapter and verse.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">If you'd like to be able to customize your UCS chassis and perhaps capitalize on co -residency allowances (again, within supported parameters), you'd want to look at something
called a specs-based configuration or a data center product like a B series chassis.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">If you'd like to provide us with some detail on what your long-term objectives are with the upgrade and some demographics on your user/device population we might be able
to give you some more informed insight.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hope that helps,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Email:
<a href="mailto:ryanthomashuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanthomashuff@outlook.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Spark:
<a href="mailto:ryanthomashuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanthomashuff@outlook.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Twitter:
<a href="http://twitter.com/ryanthomashuff" target="_blank">@ryanthomashuff</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">LinkedIn:
<a href="http://linkedin.com/in/ryanthomashuff" target="_blank">ryanthomashuff</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Web
<a href="http://ryanthomashuff.com" target="_blank">ryanthomashuff.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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on behalf of Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 3, 2015 3:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks for everyone's responses. I read on one of the pages that BE7K comes pre-loaded with UCCx 4 vCPU OVA, but I'm guessing that I
can run whatever OVA I want as long as it fits?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">We were told that the BE7K is not customizable, even after ordering, so adding memory or anything like that is not permitted. This sort
of makes me cringe. I like having the opportunity to add memory and/or additional NICs as with the other TRCs. Can't really justify it now, but as future versions come up, I'd like to have the ability to add more memory if the CUCM v11 or v12 version requires
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif";color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">4120
Ext 56354<br>
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">"Rob Dawson" <<a href="mailto:rdawson@force3.com" target="_blank">rdawson@force3.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"cisco-voip voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 3, 2015 11:27:07 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The newest BE7ks are built on C240 M4 hardware. The BE7H-M4-K9 is 20 cores, 128 GB RAM, 4+ TB of available disk space, the BE7M-M4-K9 is 12 cores, 64
GB RAM, and around 2.6 TB available disk.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cisco states on the data sheet that BE7k is “optimized for enterprise-scale organizations with 1000 to 5000 users and 3000 to 15,000 devices” but they
also note “For more capacity to support larger sized deployments, simply stack additional servers. And in smaller sized deployments with less than 1000 users, typically more applications can be supported per server.”</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I haven’t seen any practical limitations, and as pointed out by someone else you can use the VM Placement Tool to see what OVAs fit, and scale to size.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 03, 2015 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>To: </b>"Matthew Loraditch" <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:02:47 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">We're in the process of converting to Cisco UC and recently during our design phase swapped out the BE7Ks in favor of the new UCS C series severs. C240 M4s are used for
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">is your friend, pick your server model and the ovas you will use.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In general though BE7K should be fine. No limitations besides overall resources. Just gotta figure out how many you need or want</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Still trying to figure out what, if any, limitations going with a BE7K might have. Does anyone care to share a reason why we shouldn't go with BE7K, or
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