<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I hear ya Ryan. The RMA issues is a great point. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Maybe there will be a BE7K-10G model soon. ;)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">This has been a very helpful thread. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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The biggest risk in changing the internals of a BE6K or BE7K is that from a hardware support perspective the BE7K is a separate product from a UCS-C240 and that product has a fixed hardware configuration. Changing anything internally is likely going to make
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<div dir="ltr" class="">This has always been the case for me, always run out of CPU cores on the TRC builds long before the memory, even with the 10k ova's on UCM, 20k ova on UCxn and 400 agent CCX.
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<b class="">To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" class="">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" class="">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br class="">
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<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?<span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, December 3, 2015 3:45 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black;" class="">Thanks for everyone's responses. I read on one of the pages that BE7K comes pre-loaded with UCCx
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black;" class="">We were told that the BE7K is not customizable, even after ordering, so adding memory or anything
like that is not permitted. This sort of makes me cringe. I like having the opportunity to add memory and/or additional NICs as with the other TRCs. Can't really justify it now, but as future versions come up, I'd like to have the ability to add more memory
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black;" class="">It's really only memory and NIC throughput that I can see having to increase and only as the apps
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<b class="">Sent: </b>Thursday, December 3, 2015 11:27:07 AM<br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?<span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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BE7ks are built on C240 M4 hardware. The BE7H-M4-K9 is 20 cores, 128 GB RAM, 4+ TB of available disk space, the BE7M-M4-K9 is 12 cores, 64 GB RAM, and around 2.6 TB available disk.</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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states on the data sheet that BE7k is “optimized for enterprise-scale organizations with 1000 to 5000 users and 3000 to 15,000 devices” but they also note “For more capacity to support larger sized deployments, simply stack additional servers. And in smaller
sized deployments with less than 1000 users, typically more applications can be supported per server.”</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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seen any practical limitations, and as pointed out by someone else you can use the VM Placement Tool to see what OVAs fit, and scale to size.</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" class="">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Lamont, Joshua<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, December 03, 2015 10:21 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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<p style="background:white" data-mce-style="background: white;" class=""><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class="">Sorry for the confusion... We had originally planned to install C240 M3s but swapped them out for the C240 M4s instead. <span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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<b class="">To: </b>"Matthew Loraditch" <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" class="">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br class="">
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<b class="">Sent: </b>Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:02:47 AM<br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] BE7K or not?</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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friend, pick your server model and the ovas you will use.</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br class="">
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br class="">
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Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br class="">
University of Guelph</span><span style="" data-mce-style="color: black;" class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""></span></span></p>
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