<html><body><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>what's the frame rate of recording Chris?</div><div><br></div><div><hr>from wiki:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p</a></div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;">ATSC<br></p><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;">In the United States, the original ATSC standards for HDTV supported 1080p video, but only at the frame rates of 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97 and 30 frames per second (colloquially known as 1080p24, 1080p25 and 1080p30).</p><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;">In July 2008, the ATSC standards were amended to include H.264/MPEG-4 AVC compression and 1080p at 50, 59.94 and 60 frames per second (1080p50 and 1080p60). Such frame rates require H.264/AVC High Profile Level 4.2, while standard HDTV frame rates only require Level 4.0.</p><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;">This update is not expected to result in widespread availability of 1080p60 programming, since most of the existing digital receivers in use would only be able to decode the older, less-efficient MPEG-2 codec, and because there is a limited amount of bandwidth for subchannels.</p><hr><p style="margin: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;"><br></p></div><div><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>University of Guelph<br><div><br></div>519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354<br>lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<br>Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<span name="x"></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b>To: </b>"Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward@cisco.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"voip puck" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:24:39 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] hand held camera video conferencing recording solution with CUCM - SX80 w/ mediasense? or VCS?<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;"><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/customer-collaboration/mediasense/datasheet-c78-734645.html" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/customer-collaboration/mediasense/datasheet-c78-734645.html">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/customer-collaboration/mediasense/datasheet-c78-734645.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><span></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>University of Guelph<br><div><br></div>519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354<br>lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<br>Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1<span></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward@cisco.com><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "voip puck" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:07:02 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: hand held camera video conferencing recording solution with CUCM - SX80 w/ mediasense? or VCS?<br><div><br></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Send me a link to the datasheet, it’s just wrong. At current we are only testing 1080p, so that what we support. Starting in 11.5 we are testing at lower resolutions to help increase scale.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">So 1080p and lower are all supported with MediaSense.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #44546a;">+Chris</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #44546a;">TME – Spark Call and MediaSense</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" data-mce-style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:57 AM<br> <b>To:</b> voip puck <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] hand held camera video conferencing recording solution with CUCM - SX80 w/ mediasense? or VCS?</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks Chris. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">Looking at the MediaSense data sheet, I see:</span></p></div><div><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" data-mce-style="margin: 0in; margin-bottom: .0001pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" data-mce-style="margin: 0in; margin-bottom: .0001pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">● Video recording is supported for MPEG-4 AVC/H.264.<br> ● MediaSense supports resolution up to and including VGA.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">I'm not a video expert (far from being a video amateur actually), but isn't VGA resolution far from HD?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">---<br> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br> University of Guelph</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; color: black;">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; color: black;">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">4120 Ext 56354<br> <a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br> <a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center" data-mce-style="text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr"></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;">"Chris Ward (chrward)" <<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com">chrward@cisco.com</a>><br> <b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "voip puck" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br> <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:44:47 AM<br> <b>Subject: </b>RE: hand held camera video conferencing recording solution with CUCM - SX80 w/ mediasense? or VCS?</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">The Jimmy Kimmel Live! Show uses SX80s with their HDMI inputs to send video over IP. They do remotes with them and hook up studio cameras to the codecs. MediaSense can indeed do HD recording so that is an option. TCS is also an option. It just depends on what your post-recording requirements are.</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #44546a;">+Chris</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #44546a;">TME – Spark Call and MediaSense</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" data-mce-style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:22 AM<br> <b>To:</b> voip puck <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] hand held camera video conferencing recording solution with CUCM - SX80 w/ mediasense? or VCS?</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">There may be a requirement where a group would like to record an event using an external hand held camera. </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">I'm wondering if I grab an SX80 codec and use the camera's HDMI output, that should stream to the other side without a problem. Say to another SX?? in the other room.</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">What would I use to record? Can Mediasense do HD recording? Or is my only option to spring for a TelePresence Recording Server and the underlying infrastructure to support that? which is?</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">---<br> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br> University of Guelph</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; color: black;">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; color: black;">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;">4120 Ext 56354<br> <a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br> <a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1</span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="color:black" data-mce-style="color: black;"></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>